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Ed Godfrey

Joined: 05 May 2009
Posts: 47

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: RV10 door seals

Has anyone installed the door seals from 

http://www.rvtraining.com/html/atp/html/accessories.html and if so, what 

is your experience with them. I am at a fork in the road as to which 

seals to go with. Looking at the ones on the factory demo, I wasn't 

impressed with the use of the blind rivets to hold it in place. Also, 

although the use of the McMaster seals is intriguing, I guess I have 

some reservations about sanding away so much of the door opening. 

Therefore, I was wanting to see if there was any feedback on the seals 

from rvtraining. Thanks.



Ed Godfrey

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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

I did the easy way.  I used 3/8" self adhesive McMaster seals on the door.

The seal is inside the door lip so you don't do the grinding.  I filled in

the hinge area with a piece of rigid foam (held in the RTV) so that the seal

lays on top.  Once you have the hinge area filled the seal goes on a just a

couple of minutes.  The adhesive is quite adequate.  44 hours (and countless

door opening and closing) and it works well.



Part number: 93085K11

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3471/=jbjp4s



$11 for 20 feet.  I tried 1/2" tall seal first, but this was too much and

the door was way hard to close.  The 3/8" gets compressed, but not enough to

deform the door.  



Carl



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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Carl,

My door only leaks at the hinge.

Can you give more details on how you handled the hinge?

Alan



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On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:03 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:



[quote] I did the easy way.  I used 3/8" self adhesive McMaster seals on the door.

 The seal is inside the door lip so you don't do the grinding.  I filled in

 the hinge area with a piece of rigid foam (held in the RTV) so that the seal

 lays on top.  Once you have the hinge area filled the seal goes on a just a

 couple of minutes.  The adhesive is quite adequate.  44 hours (and countless

 door opening and closing) and it works well.

 

 Part number: 93085K11

 http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3471/=jbjp4s

 

 $11 for 20 feet.  I tried 1/2" tall seal first, but this was too much and

 the door was way hard to close.  The 3/8" gets compressed, but not enough to

 deform the door.  

 

 Carl

 

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rv10flyer

Joined: 25 Aug 2009
Posts: 364

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: RV10 door seals

Just cut out some .032" or thicker pieces that fit the hinge openings perfectly. Proseal in for easy removal later. Paint. You can do that with McMaster Carr seals like I did or those type in the pic. Mine leak zero.

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Wayne G.

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Nothing special.  Just rigid foam insulation material carved with a razor

knife to fill up the hinge area so that the top of the foam was flush with

the inside of the door.  I used RTV to glue these into place.



The hardest part was finding this material in black instead of the Lowes

pink.  I happened to have some material left over from the steel siding on

the hangar door that worked well.  If you get the pink, don't try to paint

it black as the paint will melt it (yes - I tried).  If all you can get is

the pink, then carve it to fit and put a thin coat of black RTV over the

side that faces out. 



Carl 



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Strasnuts

Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 502
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Here is mine with the McmasterCarr seal 1120A311 No leaks at all.  I used 

nutplates for the hinges even though you could still use nuts.





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amekler

Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 164

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Carl,

Thanks.

My plane is 3 years old and i dont't know what kind of seal it has(it is not on the door) cold air comesvin at the hinge site otherwise it is a nice fit.

Not sure whether i should replace the whole seal or just do something at the hinge.

Alan



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On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:11 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Nothing special.  Just rigid foam insulation material carved with a razor

 knife to fill up the hinge area so that the top of the foam was flush with

 the inside of the door.  I used RTV to glue these into place.

 

 The hardest part was finding this material in black instead of the Lowes

 pink.  I happened to have some material left over from the steel siding on

 the hangar door that worked well.  If you get the pink, don't try to paint

 it black as the paint will melt it (yes - I tried).  If all you can get is

 the pink, then carve it to fit and put a thin coat of black RTV over the

 side that faces out. 

 

 Carl 

 

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Most people fiberglass over the opening to make it flush with the door.   I just used a piece of scrap fiberglass, cut it to size, epoxied it in place, then a little micro to make things smooth.  This gives a nice surface for any type of seal you choose.

Bob

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On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

[quote] 

 Carl,

 Thanks.

 My plane is 3 years old and i dont't know what kind of seal it has(it is not on the door) cold air comesvin at the hinge site otherwise it is a nice fit.

 Not sure whether i should replace the whole seal or just do something at the hinge.

 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:11 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> 

> 

> Nothing special.  Just rigid foam insulation material carved with a razor

> knife to fill up the hinge area so that the top of the foam was flush with

> the inside of the door.  I used RTV to glue these into place.

> 

> The hardest part was finding this material in black instead of the Lowes

> pink.  I happened to have some material left over from the steel siding on

> the hangar door that worked well.  If you get the pink, don't try to paint

> it black as the paint will melt it (yes - I tried).  If all you can get is

> the pink, then carve it to fit and put a thin coat of black RTV over the

> side that faces out. 

> 

> Carl 

> 

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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

Here is our fiberglass bridge. 



http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/Images/Doors/Door_(14).jpg



Robin



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On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:30 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Most people fiberglass over the opening to make it flush with the door.   I just used a piece of scrap fiberglass, cut it to size, epoxied it in place, then a little micro to make things smooth.  This gives a nice surface for any type of seal you choose.

 

 Bob

 

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> Carl,

> Thanks.

> My plane is 3 years old and i dont't know what kind of seal it has(it is not on the door) cold air comesvin at the hinge site otherwise it is a nice fit.

> Not sure whether i should replace the whole seal or just do something at the hinge.

> Alan

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:11 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> wrote:

> 

>> 

>> 

>> Nothing special.  Just rigid foam insulation material carved with a razor

>> knife to fill up the hinge area so that the top of the foam was flush with

>> the inside of the door.  I used RTV to glue these into place.

>> 

>> The hardest part was finding this material in black instead of the Lowes

>> pink.  I happened to have some material left over from the steel siding on

>> the hangar door that worked well.  If you get the pink, don't try to paint

>> it black as the paint will melt it (yes - I tried).  If all you can get is

>> the pink, then carve it to fit and put a thin coat of black RTV over the

>> side that faces out. 

>> 

>> Carl 

>> 

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rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

I used them.  Work great.....



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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:03 am Post subject: RV10 door seals

That's a real good pic to reference for handling the hinge in the door.

I bridged mine too but sealed it all up so there is no access to the 

hinge nuts.  In other words, the hinge half is in place permanently.

I carved up some blue foam then laid some thin glass cloth over it.

(Note that 2 different kinds of McMaster-Carr seals are being referenced 

in this thread.  They are completely different from one another.)

Bill "getting ready to touch up some paint around the windshield" Watson

On 9/16/2012 8:56 PM, Robin Marks wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Here is our fiberglass bridge.

 http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/Images/Doors/Door_(14).jpg

 Robin

 Sent from the new iPad

 On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:30 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

> 

>

> Most people fiberglass over the opening to make it flush with the door.   I just used a piece of scrap fiberglass, cut it to size, epoxied it in place, then a little micro to make things smooth.  This gives a nice surface for any type of seal you choose.

>

> Bob

> Sent from my iPad

John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 130
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: RV10 door seals

I'm very happy with the rvtraining seals. Much better than my attempt at using van's seals.



On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:11 PM, egodfrey(at)ameritech.net wrote:



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    Has anyone installed the door seals from http://www.rvtraining.com/html/atp/html/accessories.html and if so, what is your experience with them. I am at a fork in the road as to which seals to go with. Looking at the ones on the factory demo, I wasn't impressed with the use of the blind rivets to hold it in place. Also, although the use of the McMaster seals is intriguing, I guess I have some reservations about sanding away so much of the door opening. Therefore, I was wanting to see if there was any feedback on the seals from rvtraining. Thanks.

 

 Ed Godfrey

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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:52 am Post subject: Re: RV10 door seals

All I did to create a couple of pockets was to epoxy in a couple of balsa wood pieces cut roughly to shape. Then fill with micro and sand. Turned out pretty nice.



Cheers,

Jay

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