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Etienne Verhellen
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed, then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
Mark Bitterlich
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Sent: Tue 9/25/2012 5:17 AM
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Subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
valuable learning points for us all.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
just read it for your own benefit.
FLY safe. Have FUN.
Etienne.
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http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
And a few pics ... 
This is the YAK list after all ...
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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Etienne,
Thanks for posting. Was a good read. A lot of insight. Bottom line, as the old adage goes, always try to fly in middle of the boundaries of the atmosphere. Flying to close to the edges begs to flirt with disaster. Always give yourself enough altitude for at least two "Oh Shits".
Doc
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On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:24 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:
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czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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Good info. Something to think about since we all tail chase. Appreciate the thought provoking post.
Bill
On Sep 25, 2012, at 5:14 PM, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com> wrote:
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Etienne,
Thanks for posting. Was a good read. A lot of insight. Bottom line, as the old adage goes, always try to fly in middle of the boundaries of the atmosphere. Flying to close to the edges begs to flirt with disaster. Always give yourself enough altitude for at least two "Oh Shits".
Doc
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On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:24 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:
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> I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed, then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
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> Mark Bitterlich
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> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Etienne Verhellen
> Sent: Tue 9/25/2012 5:17 AM
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
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> AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
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> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
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> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
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> Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
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> And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
> valuable learning points for us all.
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
> http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
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> Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
> just read it for your own benefit.
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> FLY safe. Have FUN.
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> Etienne.
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> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod(at)scarlet.be.11.12.2008/yak52.jpg
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> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113478
> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113628
> http://youtu.be/bSswo8pwly0
> http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01058969
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006519020/in/photostream/lightbox/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006522950/in/photostream/lightbox/
> http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
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> And a few pics ...
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> This is the YAK list after all ...
> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
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> http://persoon.yasni.be/etienne+verhellen+1315762
> http://flightplanet.com/other_advert_det.php?id=146
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383946#383946
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_11_180812_116.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picslens2_1_496.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_610.pdf
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_report_yak_52_ra_3585k_28_april_2011_170.pdf
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Etienne Verhellen
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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| Quote: | I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed, then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
Mark BITTERlich |
Come on ... Mark "BITTER" ... GIVE US A BREAK !
As I wrote :
| Quote: | | Just read it FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT. |
| Quote: | | VALUABLE LEARNING POINTS FOR US ALL. |
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
Absolutely no need to discuss this one with you Mark unless you notice something the AAIB investigators have missed and in that case I would suggest you get directly in touch with them.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
Cheers,
Etienne.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:41 am Post subject: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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Works both ways Etienne. Take care.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Etienne Verhellen
Sent: Wed 9/26/2012 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
| Quote: | I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed, then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
Mark BITTERlich
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Come on ... Mark "BITTER" ... GIVE US A BREAK !
As I wrote :
| Quote: | Just read it FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT.
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| Quote: | VALUABLE LEARNING POINTS FOR US ALL.
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http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
Absolutely no need to discuss this one with you Mark unless you notice something the AAIB investigators have missed and in that case I would suggest you get directly in touch with them.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
Cheers,
Etienne.
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Etienne Verhellen
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
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Thanks Mark. Have a good afternoon. Cheers, Etienne.
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