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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com.

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com>
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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com, "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
wrote:

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Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure. 
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
wrote:

[quote]*

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=========================

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two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.

HTML Version:

 
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapt
er=2012-06-30&Archive=Rocket

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r=2012-06-30&Archive=Rocket
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  ----------------------------------------------------------


Today's Message Index:
----------------------

1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10.  I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure. 
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Ernest,
Location, Reno, NV
Let me know if you need it. It is also the same as Miles. Needs weights and tip.
Brian


Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:54, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
wrote:

[quote]*

=========================
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in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.

HTML Version:


http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapt
er=2012-06-30&Archive=Rocket

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http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapte
r=2012-06-30&Archive=Rocket
=======================
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=======================


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  ----------------------------------------------------------


Today's Message Index:
----------------------

1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Ok, thanks, I am working on one that is a little closer, should know this afternoon and will get back in touch.
Ernest
From: Brian Adams <md11plt(at)sbcglobal.net (md11plt(at)sbcglobal.net)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:59 PM
To: "rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,
Location, Reno, NV
Let me know if you need it. It is also the same as Miles. Needs weights and tip.
Brian


Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:54, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10.  I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure. 
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

G'day Earnest,

Sorry to hear about your misfortune ... I know how much work goes into that slider and empennage. Was it because the retainers let go at the back of the canopy track? Is there something we can all learn from this?


Kind regards, Stu<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

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From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:55 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Hey Miles,


Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.


Ernest


From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator



Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

On 7/1/12 3:00 AM, "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
wrote:

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Yes on all accounts. I had an oil leak, we thought we fixed it. I was about to go on a trip that was over 1,000 miles and wanted to make sure the leak was fixed so ran the engine up to about 2,000 rpm (over the usual 1500 for mags). The canopy was all the way back since I live in FL and it is hot here. It obviously lifted out of the track at the back which is the weak link.  If I had locked it just behind the pilot seat like I do when it is cold it would not have happened.
Bottom line with a sliding canopy, at least like mine, do not get the prop over 1500 rpm or you may loose it.
Ernest
N540HB 
From: Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:55 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: RE: Need a right elevator

G'day Earnest,

Sorry to hear about your misfortune ... I know how much work goes into that slider and empennage. Was it because the retainers let go at the back of the canopy track? Is there something we can all learn from this?


Kind regards, Stu

F1 Rocket VH-FLY   http://www.mykitlog.com/RockFLY   [url=about:www.teamrocketaircraft.com]www.teamrocketaircraft.com[/url]



From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:55 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown.  The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Thanks Earnest ... what type of mechanism did you have closing the canopy track at the back?

Some builders use a cover with a tab screwed to the bulkhead. Docthrock used a short piece of angle in the track.

Just wondering what let go?


Kind regards, Stu<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

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From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:03 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Yes on all accounts. I had an oil leak, we thought we fixed it. I was about to go on a trip that was over 1,000 miles and wanted to make sure the leak was fixed so ran the engine up to about 2,000 rpm (over the usual 1500 for mags). The canopy was all the way back since I live in FL and it is hot here. It obviously lifted out of the track at the back which is the weak link. If I had locked it just behind the pilot seat like I do when it is cold it would not have happened.


Bottom line with a sliding canopy, at least like mine, do not get the prop over 1500 rpm or you may loose it.


Ernest


N540HB


From: Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:55 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: RE: Need a right elevator



G'day Earnest,

Sorry to hear about your misfortune ... I know how much work goes into that slider and empennage. Was it because the retainers let go at the back of the canopy track? Is there something we can all learn from this?


Kind regards, Stu

F1 Rocket VH-FLY http://www.mykitlog.com/RockFLY [url=about:www.teamrocketaircraft.com]www.teamrocketaircraft.com[/url]



From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:55 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Hey Miles,


Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.


Ernest


From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator



Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
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Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

HI Eernest,

I'm in Tehachapi, California, and have an empennage, and a partially complete wing kit for an HRII.

Miles

--- On Fri, 10/19/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012, 5:54 AM

Hey Miles,


Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.


Ernest


From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator



Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com.

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

That was the weak link where it let go, just a piece of metal, not very strong, screwed into the back of the plane. Needs to be much stronger.
E
From: Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:31 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: RE: Need a right elevator

Thanks Earnest ... what type of mechanism did you have closing the canopy track at the back?

Some builders use a cover with a tab screwed to the bulkhead. Docthrock used a short piece of angle in the track.

Just wondering what let go?


Kind regards, Stu

F1 Rocket VH-FLY   http://www.mykitlog.com/RockFLY   [url=about:www.teamrocketaircraft.com]www.teamrocketaircraft.com[/url]



From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:03 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Yes on all accounts. I had an oil leak, we thought we fixed it. I was about to go on a trip that was over 1,000 miles and wanted to make sure the leak was fixed so ran the engine up to about 2,000 rpm (over the usual 1500 for mags). The canopy was all the way back since I live in FL and it is hot here. It obviously lifted out of the track at the back which is the weak link. If I had locked it just behind the pilot seat like I do when it is cold it would not have happened.
Bottom line with a sliding canopy, at least like mine, do not get the prop over 1500 rpm or you may loose it.
Ernest
N540HB
From: Stuart Hutchison <stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au (stuart(at)stuarthutchison.com.au)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 6:55 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Need a right elevator

G'day Earnest,

Sorry to hear about your misfortune ... I know how much work goes into that slider and empennage. Was it because the retainers let go at the back of the canopy track? Is there something we can all learn from this?


Kind regards, Stu

F1 Rocket VH-FLY http://www.mykitlog.com/RockFLY   [url=about:www.teamrocketaircraft.com]www.teamrocketaircraft.com[/url]



From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Ernest Hale
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:55 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com).

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown.  The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com (smokyray(at)rocketmail.com)>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com (jrstone(at)insightbb.com)> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Need a right elevator Reply with quote

Hey Miles,
I might be interested in your empennage and wing kit, could you send pics and let me know what you might want for them. I have an imbalance in my wings due to having to replace one of them and I don't think it was jigged correctly.
Thanks,
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:47 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

HI Eernest,

I'm in Tehachapi, California, and have an empennage, and a partially complete wing kit for an HRII.

Miles

--- On Fri, 10/19/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Friday, October 19, 2012, 5:54 AM

Hey Miles,
Thanks for responding, it actually is a HRII that I put the sliding canopy on. I think we have one spotted but will let you know if that doesn't work out. Where are you located? I am in Jacksonville, FL.
Ernest
From: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com (cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com)>
Reply-To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:36 PM
To: <rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Need a right elevator

Ernest,

If you had your canopy "back" instead of "over", I assume you've got an F-1 instead of an HRII. If so, I doubt you're interested, but I have a 90% complete (needs counterweights and fiberglass) set of elevators for an HRII (0.016 skins).

Miles

--- On Thu, 10/18/12, Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)> wrote:

[quote]
From: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com (ernest(at)flmitigation.com)>
Subject: Need a right elevator
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com), "Rocket-List Digest List" <rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com (rocket-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 5:07 PM

--> Rocket-List message posted by: Ernest Hale <ernest(at)flmitigation.com>

I had an unfortunate incident today where while I was running the engine
up on my Rocket with the canopy back the canopy took a departure from the
plane and hit my right elevator. Does anyone have one that they would
like to sell? Right elevator that is.

You can reach me here or at ernest(at)flmitigation.com.

Thanks,

Ernest Hale

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1. 05:28 AM - Engine failure (Jim Stone)
2. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine failure (Rob Ray)
3. 06:05 PM - Re: Engine failure (cybersuperstore)



________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 05:28:09 AM PST US
Subject: Engine failure
From: Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com>
I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection in
Louisville Kentucky.

Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in engine
failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.

The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a
connecting rod
failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.

The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
pistons and
cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect
the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden and fail.
If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
call or
email me.

My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause of
the failure.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
502 235-3599
Sent from my iPad
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:17:35 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray(at)rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine failure
Jim,
I will visit my Lycoming expert friend JR next week and share your
experience.
I will let you know what transpires.

Smokey

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2012, at 8:27, Jim Stone <jrstone(at)insightbb.com> wrote:

>
> I had an engine failure in my Harmon Rocket (Lyc IO 540), and I am
>looking for
an engine expert to have a look at all the pieces and tell me what caused
the
failure. I have the entire engine disassembled and available for
inspection
in Louisville Kentucky.
>
> Or, I would like any info on KS bearing failure and their roll in
>engine failures.
My engine failed with less than 400 hours since 0 time rebuild.
>
> The engine started making a faint knocking noise followed by oil temp
>climb and
caution, I headed back to my field and I was on base leg when a connecting
rod failed and punched thru the case, I landed without further incident.
>
> The engine seized just after touchdown. The case, crank, cam, rods,
>pistons
and cylinders were all damaged and unusable.
> Of note, my engine started making metal on the last oil analysis
>indicating something
wearing, the company said to retest in 25 hours, I didn't make 10. I
suspect the KS rod bearing failed causing the rod bolts to work harden
and fail.
> If you have any experience or knowledge you could pass on to me, please
>call
or email me.
>
> My goal is to pursue KS bearing if they are determined to be the cause
>of the
failure.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> 502 235-3599
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 06:05:39 PM PST US
From: "cybersuperstore" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com>
Subject: RE: Engine failure
Glad you are OK, Jim.

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