dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: ASRS was Auto Pilot issues... |
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When I worked for an experienced 135 operator, his first advice in a "call the tower" situation was NEVER call the tower just because they ask you to. You have no obligation, period. I've asked an aviation attorney since then, and he agreed.
My own experience with FAA's "friendly chats" is that there's no such thing as off-the-record, everything you say is evidence, and they will use it if they wish.
The ASRS (NASA) form is absolutely worth the effort, and it does work. My wife and I both worked for ASRS many years ago, and I've seen it work plenty of times, even to my own personal benefit. But it takes a concerted effort and a lawyer who wants to do the work. If avoiding the suspension is worth it to you, there are several levels to work through before a violation is made, and the form is one layer of protection.
Garry is right, FAA never sees it, and that's the point, in order to protect you for admitting an error. But the law does respect the form and if you take it far enough it works like a charm.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Garry Stout <garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com (garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com)> wrote:
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The “get out of jail free” card doesn’t work. I had one of those “call the tower” incidents 2 months ago, which led to a discussion with the FAA. I sent in my “get out of jail” paperwork, but the FAA said they never see that paperwork and don’t even have access to it. It plays no part in their enforcement actions. The paperwork is strictly a NASA thing, for safety statistics. Don’t think it will do you any good, and certainly won’t get you out of jail.
Garry Stout
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Judge
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:46 AM
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Subject: Auto Pilot issues...
I get the NASA Callback emailed to me regularly, it is a periodical that details some of the more interesting reports filed by pilots, controllers and mechanics playing their "get out of jail free card."
It generally makes for thought provoking reading and it's free.
This month talks about auto pilots going awry and 2 of the 3 incidents detailed are in experimentals yet, experimentals are less than 20% of the total number of piston fixed wings out there...
http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/publications/callback/cb_393.html
We can do better!
Make sure you really know how to operate all that gadgetry that you've got before you use it in what I would call "an operational environment"
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make sure it all works the way it should before you depend on it.
Bill Judge
N84WJ, RV-8, 820 hrs
http://rv-8.blogspot.com/
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