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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

Group,

In the Rotax engine manual for my 447 it says to put 3 cm of preservation
oil into the carb and run briefly before shut down if you dont plan to run
it for at least a week to 4 weeks. I have not been doing this and feel it is
more important than ever with mandatory alchohol in our gas here. What do
you use for preservation oil? Will Marvel Mystery oil serve the purpose??
Any suggestions?


Ed Diebel (Firefly # 62)


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

Brother Diebel...
One easy way to do it is to use the marine outboard preservative oil
made for this purpose... comes in aerosol cans... Pennziol makes one
that is carried
in the local Wal-Mart hereabouts... just shoot it into the carb at a
fast idle
until the engine chokes and dies..

Also provides a small entertainment bonus from the white smoke when
you
restart in front of an unsuspecting audience.... and gives a good
local
mosquito kill...

I dunno about using Marvel...never tried it for this.

Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
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Brandon, FL
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

I don't think you mean "3 cm" of oil -- that's over an inch. 3cc's
maybe?
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Group,

In the Rotax engine manual for my 447 it says to put 3 cm of
preservation
oil into the carb and run briefly before shut down if you dont
plan to run
it for at least a week to 4 weeks. I have not been doing this and
feel it is
more important than ever with mandatory alchohol in our gas
here. What do
you use for preservation oil? Will Marvel Mystery oil serve the
purpose??
Any suggestions?
Ed Diebel (Firefly # 62)





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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

In a message dated 5/31/2006 5:01:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kinnepix(at)earthlink.net writes:
I don't think you mean "3 cm" of oil -- that's over an inch. 3cc's
maybe?
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Russ,

On page 11-1 of the official Rotax owners manual for my 447 it says,
Quote 3 ccm preservation oil up to 4 weeks storage and on page 11-2 6cm3. for
up to a year of storage along with 6ccm in the spark plug hole. Im not sure
how much that is.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

Ed,

I used a fuel primer pump and the primer ports on each carb. to pump oil
into the engine before each extended shutdown. I put a tee in the oil hose
coming out of the oil tank to supply oil to the primer. with the engine
still idling I would pump several shots of oil into the carbs. until I could
see smoke from the exhaust then raise the idle speed slightly before shuting
it down.

I put this system on the second 582 I owned. The first failed a rod bearing
in flight which destroyed the engine. The concensus of three (Lockwood,
South MS, and LEAF) Rotax gurus was that corrosion of the rod bearing was
the root cause of the failure. I had purchased the first engine new and put
210 hours on it in 18 months so it did not sit idle for very long. I had my
doubts that corrosion could be the cause as frequently as the engine was
being run, but they are the gurus so I decided I would fog the new engine
each time it was shut down for more than one day.

Steven Green

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

I've not read the Rotax manual so I can't even comment on  that.But "cm" is centimeter, just under half an inch, a measure of distance.   "ccm" is a cubic centimeter, a cube 1 cm on a side, a measure of volume.
Some difference! 
Confusing in that Rotax says "ccm" in  one place and "cm3" in  another -- two ways of saying the same thing.
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In a message dated 5/31/2006 5:01:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I  don't think you mean "3 cm" of oil -- that's over an inch.  3cc's   
maybe?
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Russ,
    On page 11-1 of the official Rotax owners manual for my  447 it says, 
Quote  3 ccm preservation oil up to 4 weeks storage and on  page 11-2  6cm3. for 
up to a year of storage along with 6ccm in the  spark plug hole.   Im not sure 
how much that is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Preservation oil Reply with quote

In a message dated 6/4/2006 12:06:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, kinnepix(at)earthlink.net writes:
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I've not read the Rotax manual so I can't even comment on  that. But "cm" is centimeter, just under half an inch, a measure of distance.   "ccm" is a cubic centimeter, a cube 1 cm on a side, a measure of volume.
Some difference! 
Confusing in that Rotax says "ccm" in  one place and "cm3" in  another -- two ways of saying the same thing.
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   Russ.      I though it meant  cubic centimeter , but was not sure. I think 3 ccm would be about like a teaspoon full. That is what I am going to try.
 
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