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Remi Guerner



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Hi all,
I had an interesting flight today and cannot resist the pleasure to share the attached pictures with you. I climbed to 11000 ft over the Gap area, french south Alps, to catch a mountain wave, then reduced power to idle and flew almost for free for 10 minutes gaining about 1000 ft . Facing into the wind with 55 kts IAS, my ground speed was 19 kts. Then I turned downwind with full throttle and 5000 RPM and got 194 kts on the GPS. I was impressed by the distance I covered in a few minutes at that speed !
Remi
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Hi Remi,

Lucky you! I wish I could have been on the right seat and have a look
outside during that flight. Any picture?

Max Cointe
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Kit #560 912ULS Airmaster 450 hours
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Hi Remi,

What a picture, that's what I call flying - lucky so and so, our strip is like a mud pie!

regards

Trev G-LINN

In a message dated 03/12/2012 15:58:54 GMT Standard Time, air.guerner(at)orange.fr writes:
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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Remi,

This is what I call a "destination for nice flight"! Don't be surprised if I
pop-up next spring or autumn...

Max Cointe
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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the
Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

On 12/03/2012 04:57 PM, Remi Guerner wrote:
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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.

I recognize the area very well as the parents of my wife live in the
valley on the right, have been there numerous times. Although my
destination field is usually LFQB and I'm actually flying IN that valley
rather than above.

Regarding the mountain waves, I guess the mistral is active? I tried
flying there once with that going on, but I was in for a very wild ride
while still below the mountain tops.
Also I remember having been flying there once with a C172, climbing with
1000 ft/minute with the throttle closed, which was actually quite scary
as I was already at 12000 ft, no oxygen, and no sign of easing down on
the unvoluntary climb, until I escaped in the right direction.

Anyway, I have never been there in winter time, too far from home in
unpredictable weather with too short daylime to make it there in one
day. It looks beautiful with all that snow!

Is LFNA actually open in the winter?

Frans


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Hi Frans,
It was very windy at altitude of course but the flight was mostly smooth. Calm winds on the ground. Yes Gap Tallard is open all year round as is Barcelonnette (I landed there last Saturday). After a snow fall, a closure is likely for a few days as they can come to plow the runway only after ALL roads in the area have been cleaned up.
I hope to see you there one day.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

What's even more frustrating is the sight of beautiful lenticulars at 10 or 15 000 feet well inside controlled air space. I have flown a Europa Classic in wave (with Roger Mills)
we were scooting along at 110kts throttle closed and going up over Derbyshire, where I live. Wonderful when you hit the wave how the aeroplane smiles to itself as the
air goes silky smooth. The wind noise is totally different.
Graham
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Hi Remi,

What a picture, that's what I call flying - lucky so and so, our strip is like a mud pie!

regards

Trev G-LINN

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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Remi,

Pretty darned awesome!

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Sickening, down right sickening! I jest, Remi. It's absolutely
gorgeous. I'm jealous...

Jeff - Baby Blue

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Remi,

Pretty darned awesome!

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
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Hi Max,
The attached picture taken this morning from 10000 ft looking east shows the Serre Ponçon dam and mountains at the french italian border.
Remi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Remi / Michel

You blokes are just not being fair to we Australians who live in the tropics. We can't even dream about scenery like that!

I have limited glider experience in wave but enough to understand that special feeling that only wave can impart.

ENJOY and share more photos with us.

Best regards
Kingsley

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Mountain wave flying Reply with quote

Remi,
You are making me jealous.. with winter weather upon us (or just plain wet) our local strip is waterlogged and flying is a bit thin on the groundMeanwhile our Europa is making slow progress- we moved house again last month- however here is a picture of me this summer in almost the same place and same height near Gap, this time looking the other way and without an engine at all...
More pictures please -as an incentive to get on with the building!
Regards
Bill & Sue

PS Michel,
Fantastic flying and great pictures- did you know that more then 50 French Paragliders landed on top of Mont Blanc this summer before taking off again and flying home!
http://vimeo.com/48351310


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