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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:09 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy
I need.some.help.what to order
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
Ask for “breathing air” it is compressed regular oxygen.Pumper
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:31 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
Please don't use the word "Oxygen" in conjunction with "breathing air".
Someone will use "oxygen" when requesting a tank from a welding company
and bingo, we'll have another major accident. ie: Like - I'd like a size
300 tank of breathing OXYGEN.

As for dry, breathing air ONLY.

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> I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to
> have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
> I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless.
> I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of
> air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I
> dont know its consistancy
> I need.some.help.what to order
> Bob
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
? Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen. Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
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On May 7, 2015, at 5:06 PM, schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net) wrote:

I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar. I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy I need.some.help.what to order Bob
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
Hey Bob, I have a CJ up in Seattle, and have done lots of work with & on my pneumatic system. Initially I used regular compressed air, nothing special, via scuba bottle filled by a scuba-instructor friend, but nowadays I use nitrogen exclusively.  Its not intuitive to think a CJ6 would want to start with inert N2 charge, but I've don it many times without difficulty. N2 is just easier for me to stay supplied with via local weld shops. An option that woks for me at least.

If you're staying with compressed air, I'd say the drier the better. Some moisture should be filtered out by your air/water separator, but better to eliminate as much moisture as you can before you get started...
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I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy
I need.some.help.what to order
Bob

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:02 pm    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles.   My yak wont start on nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
So I ask for dry breathing air. 


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Date:07/05/2015 18:36 (GMT-06:00)
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?  Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen.  Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
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I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar. I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy I need.some.help.what to order Bob
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:16 am    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
fire departments will if u b nice.
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[quote]The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles. My yak wont start on nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
So I ask for dry breathing air.


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? Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen. Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
Jeff

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
Do a Google search for Airgas or Airliquide in your area.

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The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles.   My yak wont start on nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
So I ask for dry breathing air. 


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From: Jeff
Date:07/05/2015 18:36 (GMT-06:00)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
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?  Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen.  Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
Jeff

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On May 7, 2015, at 5:06 PM, schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net) wrote:
I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy
I need.some.help.what to order
Bob

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:33 am    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
Dry air is more expensive than nitrogen.The fire department used to fill my air tanks. Never hurts to ask.
Then I bought a used pump with dryer that was used by a dive shop. Filled my own.

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[quote]Do a Google search for Airgas or Airliquide in your area.

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The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles. My yak wont start on nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
So I ask for dry breathing air.


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From: Jeff
Date:07/05/2015 18:36 (GMT-06:00)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Compressed air
? Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen. Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
Jeff

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I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy
I need.some.help.what to order
Bob

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:48 am    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
I use a scuba compressor to fill scuba tanks.

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:

[quote] Dry air is more expensive than nitrogen.
The fire department used to fill my air tanks. Never hurts to ask.
Then I bought a used pump with dryer that was used by a dive shop. Filled
my own.
On May 8, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Do a Google search for Airgas or Airliquide in your area.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> fire departments will if u b nice.
> On May 7, 2015, at 6:02 PM, L29delfin <L29delfin(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles. My yak wont start on
> nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
> So I ask for dry breathing air.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jeff
> Date:07/05/2015 18:36 (GMT-06:00)
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Compressed air
>
> ? Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen. Scuba shops
> or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will
> give you.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 7, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway(at)mac.com> wrote:
>
> Ask for “breathing air†it is compressed regular oxygen

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:17 am    Post subject: Compressed air Reply with quote
I use an industrial bottle (Air Liquide). Costs a bit more, but it's dry, for sure.
For emergency, I have a scuba bottle, refilled by the firefighters in my town (as metioned on the list, if you ask gently, they might help you).
Jan
From: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
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Date: Friday 8 May 2015 16:31
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Subject: Re: Compressed air

Dry air is more expensive than nitrogen.The fire department used to fill my air tanks. Never hurts to ask.
Then I bought a used pump with dryer that was used by a dive shop. Filled my own.

On May 8, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Do a Google search for Airgas or Airliquide in your area.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
fire departments will if u b nice.
On May 7, 2015, at 6:02 PM, L29delfin <L29delfin(at)yahoo.com (L29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

Quote:
The scuba shops here wont fill those big bottles. My yak wont start on nitrogen. Its a pitty i have huge amount on hand for the L29.
So I ask for dry breathing air.


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

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From: Jeff
Date:07/05/2015 18:36 (GMT-06:00)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Compressed air
? Breathing air is correct, but it isn't compressed oxygen. Scuba shops or safety shops can supply. Yes you want dry air, which is what either will give you.
Jeff

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On May 7, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway(at)mac.com (terrycalloway(at)mac.com)> wrote:
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Ask for “breathing air” it is compressed regular oxygen.Pumper

Quote:
On May 7, 2015, at 5:06 PM, schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net) wrote:
I am thinking to purchase a large cylinder (300) of compressed air to have on hand for the yak in the hangar.
I was asked what composition of air I wanted. This left me clueless. I know I dont want medical oxygen. But there are various types of air. Dried not dried etc. The scuba tank air has been dried but I dont know its consistancy
I need.some.help.what to order
Bob

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Compressed air / Yakovlevs Display Team Aero India 2015 Reply with quote
Re: Compressed ... AIR !
(Yakovlevs Display Team Aero India 2015 / VE Day)

Dennis has a very good point :
Quote:
Please don't use the word "Oxygen" in conjunction with "breathing air".
Someone will use "oxygen" when requesting a tank from
a welding company and bingo, we'll have another
major accident. i.e. : Like - I'd like a size 300 tank of breathing OXYGEN.
Ask for dry, breathing air ONLY.


It has been mentioned on this forum before but it is worth repeating :
DO NOT put oxygen in the air system !
Unless you want to be blown up - in a literal sense !! - when you start your Yak (CJ).

Use compressed air only.

NO OXYGEN (O2) in the AIR TANKS ! YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT !

It has been done Exclamation Exclamation
The pilot and persons around this Yak were very VERY lucky !
You can kill people with this ! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
Have a look at the pics below :
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ly_oli_yak_52_june_2011_16_792.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ly_oli_yak_52_june_2011_15_168.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ly_oli_yak_52_june_2011_14_625.jpg
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/ly_oli_yak_52_june_201111_106.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ly_oli_yak_52_june_2011_9_142.jpg
The aircraft was a WRITE OFF ... Bad but it could have been much MUCH worst.

FLY safe - Have FUN.

Below a few pics of the Yakovlevs Formation Aerobatic Team in India ...
https://youtu.be/VmwadMjfPdM (Yakovlevs Heart)
https://youtu.be/yNSXzjPOovU (Yakovlevs 4 ship Break)

Have a HAPPY VE Day !
8 May 1945 - VE Day - Victory in Europe ... with big help from our friends
on the other side of the Pond.

http://www.aerobuzz.fr/IMG/gif/yak-50_yakovlevs_-_etienne_verhellen_-_13_july_2014_-_barton_eghs.gif
Yakovlevs Formation Loop practice (2 ship) :
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152676471421721
... etc ... Wink
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043(at)N08/

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