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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:12 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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I have one of Geoff Coombs carbon fibre instrument panels and I need to trim the control column to enable my CS stick grip to clear the panel.
The measured measured control column deflections with no interference on the instrument panel are as follows:
Fore: 69.9 degrees
Aft: 65.5 degrees
Port: 60.2 degrees
Starboard: 54.4 degrees
It would be interested to see what others are getting in the way of control column deflections?
In order of my stick to clear the bottom of the instrument panel I will not only need to cut the control column to its base, but also bend the control column to ensure that the stick grip clears the panel!
I know of at least one other builder who has needed to both trim and bend the control column, I would be interested to hear what other builders who have/are fitting a carbon fibre panel have done please?
Warm regards
Patrick
South Australia
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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:25 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Even with the install of a close to stock panel (I did a Stein), I had
to both cut the stick down and bend it quite a bit. Works fine and
clears everything but they did have to be worked a good bit.
If I get out there in the cold, I'll try slapping a guage on the stick
to see what deflections I'm getting.
Bill
On 1/5/2013 6:15 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
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I have one of Geoff Coombs carbon fibre instrument panels and I need to trim the control column to enable my CS stick grip to clear the panel.
The measured measured control column deflections with no interference on the instrument panel are as follows:
Fore: 69.9 degrees
Aft: 65.5 degrees
Port: 60.2 degrees
Starboard: 54.4 degrees
It would be interested to see what others are getting in the way of control column deflections?
In order of my stick to clear the bottom of the instrument panel I will not only need to cut the control column to its base, but also bend the control column to ensure that the stick grip clears the panel!
I know of at least one other builder who has needed to both trim and bend the control column, I would be interested to hear what other builders who have/are fitting a carbon fibre panel have done please?
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Patrick
You do not want your stick to go under the panel at all. You will need to do a little adjusting in the linkage but you should be able to get the amount of deflection that vans requires. You will need
To probably put a elevator stop on for the down elevator to keep it from hitting the panel.
I have also found that some sticks are not all the same. It also depends on which grips you are using. You will cut almost all of the straight portion at the top off no matter what sticks you are using. The sticks are way to long if adding aftermarket grips.
I will send a picture of the elevator stop. It is very simple to install
Geoff
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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I have one of Geoff Coombs carbon fibre instrument panels and I need to trim the control column to enable my CS stick grip to clear the panel.
The measured measured control column deflections with no interference on the instrument panel are as follows:
Fore: 69.9 degrees
Aft: 65.5 degrees
Port: 60.2 degrees
Starboard: 54.4 degrees
It would be interested to see what others are getting in the way of control column deflections?
In order of my stick to clear the bottom of the instrument panel I will not only need to cut the control column to its base, but also bend the control column to ensure that the stick grip clears the panel!
I know of at least one other builder who has needed to both trim and bend the control column, I would be interested to hear what other builders who have/are fitting a carbon fibre panel have done please?
Warm regards
Patrick
South Australia
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:29 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Patrick attached is a picture of the stop that I used. This idea was from
another RV-10 pilot that had the same
Problem with another brand of panel. They are very easy to install. I used
8-32 screws with locknuts and washers for the hardware only 2 required. You
will need to cut a notch in the piece of angle aluminum to allow for the
amount of deflection needed.
Contact me if you have other questions or concerns with this. Which stick
grips are you using? Also attached are
Some pictures that show where the sticks should be located when cut to fit.
I think on the grips in these pictures
There was only about 1" left
Geoff
Geoff Combs
Aerosport Modeling and Design
8090 howe industrial pkwy
canal winchester, ohio 43110
614.834.5227p
614.834.5230f
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Bajajim
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Geoff,
I had the same problem with my panel and Stick...
And I used (strangely enough) the same solution.
Works Great!!!
Jim Villani
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Geoff is correct. I have the Aerosport Panel also. You will end up with the stick cut down almost the entire amount. You should also cut the lower section so that it will insert into the control arm further and bring it further back. After you hook up the controls, you need to make an elevator stop which will prevent the stick from hitting the front panel on the inside corner. After that, you can adjust all of the push rods to obtain the correct amount of travel required by the spec. You need to make sure that the controls have enough clearance WITH your hands around the grip.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Many thanks Bill & Geoff.
Warm regards
Patrick
On 07/01/2013, at 1:52 AM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Geoff is correct. I have the Aerosport Panel also. You will end up with the stick cut down almost the entire amount. You should also cut the lower section so that it will insert into the control arm further and bring it further back. After you hook up the controls, you need to make an elevator stop which will prevent the stick from hitting the front panel on the inside corner. After that, you can adjust all of the push rods to obtain the correct amount of travel required by the spec. You need to make sure that the controls have enough clearance WITH your hands around the grip.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:23 am Post subject: Control Column Deflection & Length |
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Do not bend your control stick! Wait until after you have rigged your elevators, flaps and ailerons. You should then notice that full deflection of flight controls does not interfere with instrument panel. In other words, the travel distance of the control stick is less after rigging the flight control surfaces.
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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I have one of Geoff Coombs carbon fibre instrument panels and I need to trim the control column to enable my CS stick grip to clear the panel.
The measured measured control column deflections with no interference on the instrument panel are as follows:
Fore: 69.9 degrees
Aft: 65.5 degrees
Port: 60.2 degrees
Starboard: 54.4 degrees
It would be interested to see what others are getting in the way of control column deflections?
In order of my stick to clear the bottom of the instrument panel I will not only need to cut the control column to its base, but also bend the control column to ensure that the stick grip clears the panel!
I know of at least one other builder who has needed to both trim and bend the control column, I would be interested to hear what other builders who have/are fitting a carbon fibre panel have done please?
Warm regards
Patrick
South Australia
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