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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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 Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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I don't know if we've talked about these folks
on the List before . . . but I ran across an current
application where these connectors appear a great
alternative to knife-splices and perhaps even the
Molex/Tyco-Amp white nylon connectors.
I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson PowerPole
connectors to this page on my website:
http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87
On that page you will also find installation instructions,
tools, and a link to the factory outlet where you can
buy any quantity of housings, pins and accessories
at reasonable prices.
Do a Google on Anderson Powerpole and you'll no doubt
discover many other sources for this unique product
line.
Bob . . .
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loboflyer(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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We ham radio guys love them. If you put a set on your radios you can pretty much show up anywhere and plug in and get power for your gear!
-Jeff-
From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III
Sent: January 12, 2013 12:48 PM
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Subject: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>
I don't know if we've talked about these folks
on the List before . . . but I ran across an current
application where these connectors appear a great
alternative to knife-splices and perhaps even the
Molex/Tyco-Amp white nylon connectors.
I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson PowerPole
connectors to this page on my website:
http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87
On that page you will also find installation instructions,
tools, and a link to the factory outlet where you can
buy any quantity of housings, pins and accessories
at reasonable prices.
Do a Google on Anderson Powerpole and you'll no doubt
discover many other sources for this unique product
line.
Bob . . .
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mrspudandcompany(at)veriz
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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I don't know if we've talked about these folks
on the List before . . I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson
PowerPole
connectors to this page on my website:
http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87
Bob . . .
A search of the list shows that we did kick them around a few times starting
back about 10 years ago.
Roger
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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At 02:10 PM 1/12/2013, you wrote:
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We ham radio guys love them. If you put a set on your radios you
can pretty much show up anywhere and plug in and get power for your gear!
-Jeff-
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Yeah, I've been seeing them for years but never
really sat down and studied the products and their
technology. Pretty slick.
I think B&C has been using them in their SD-8
installation kits for years. In fact, it was
a ham radio application that prompted me to revisit
this product.
I inherited a Kenwood TS440 in great shape from
a old friend who was upgrading his station. Got
a longwire with tuner put up which is marginally
serviceable. Planning an off-center-fed dipole
as soon as the weather warms up and roof-crawling
is not so unfriendly.
Been honing up the CW skills. Haven't been on HF
in over 40 years but I've got some grand-children
who should see what this ham radio stuff is all
about.
Bob . . .
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rparigoris
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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Hi Group
I've been using Anderson Power pole connectors since the late 90s on electric models. I really like them and have been using them here and there on my Europa project.
One note, when drawing more than half of the rated capacity, even though contacts are clean and there is good tension, every once in a while they go higher than desired resistance and will melt down. These failures were on high amp draw model use. I got tired of losing power just at the wrong time and decided to parallel two connectors. Never had another problem.
Here's an emergency run at least one electric fuel pump on my 914 Rotax battery that has two paralleled connectors:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27335&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
McMaster sells them called "modul;ar connectors:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#modular-connectors/=l09xlv
Ron Parigoris
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millner(at)me.com
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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Thanks, Bob.
I've looked at these before. I'm planning to install, from time to
time, an electric air conditioner into the aft baggage compartment. It
has a maximum draw, the manufacturer says, of 50 amps. I was
considering the 75 amp Anderson PowerPole connector, but then saw
mention here that 100% lagniappe above expected current flow is best for
long connector/crimp connection life. Should I be concerned about my
app, or simply accept that, perhaps, I may need to renew these
connectors from time to time... hopefully before they start an inflight
fire?
Paul
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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At 09:07 PM 1/13/2013, you wrote:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Paul Millner <millner(at)me.com>
Thanks, Bob.
I've looked at these before. I'm planning to install, from time to time, an electric air conditioner into the aft baggage compartment. It has a maximum draw, the manufacturer says, of 50 amps. I was considering the 75 amp Anderson PowerPole connector, but then saw mention here that 100% lagniappe above expected current flow is best for long connector/crimp connection life. Should I be concerned about my app, or simply accept that, perhaps, I may need to renew these connectors from time to time... hopefully before they start an inflight fire?
Your concerns are not without foundation in practical
experience and physics. As mentioned in my post of a
few minutes ago on the chemistry of battery self
discharge rates, I'll suggest that the chemistry
of ohmic joints between current carrying conductors
is similarly if not identically influenced by
the temperature of the reactants where the two
contacts come together.
I(squared)R dissipation in the joint elevates
temperatures above existing ambient. De-rating
a joint by 50% drops rise by 75% for a profound
benefit to chemical degradation of contact surfaces
over time. This contactor was being used well within
it's ratings . . .
http://tinyurl.com/qmk6gm
but located in an area of the airplane that was
already hot. It performed as advertised for many
hours but ultimately succumbed to the sum total
of physics arrayed against it.
This is the 'magic' of the gas-tight union between
two conductors. Keeping the air and moisture out
of the joint prevents the influences of chemistry
driven by the Arrhenius equation cited a few minutes
ago with reference to chemical reactions in batteries.
The gas-tight joint takes chemistry completely
out of the picture. Mated connectors have
CHEMISTRY in common with contactors, switches
and relays. Joint make-up forces for crimps and
mated PIDG terminal suffer no such influences.
The fact that PowerPole connectors are silver
plated certainly goes to improved performance
at 'ordinary' temperatures. At the same time,
silver is not known for resistance to chemical
reaction. I'm thinking that mated contacts of
the PowerPoles used in highly stressed situation
(current induced rise + ambients) would benefit
from some silicone grease applied to mating
surfaces of the contacts.
A google search for silicone and powerpole
yielded these two of many paired references
on the 'net.
http://tinyurl.com/b45y7da
By ed from Louisiana
I started using regular hand crimpers which was a disaster, then I started soldering all my Andersons, which isn't bad but takes time and is inconvenient in the field. I finally broke down and bought this crimper and I'm still kicking myself in the rear for not doing it earlier. This crimper will make a very reliable and firm crimp along the full length of the wire insertion barrel. Just make sure to insert the pin so that it rolls into and digs into the stripped wire that was inserted. Great low resistance connection. Just add a little silicon grease when you're done and it is good to go almost anywhere. Im converting my whole operation over to Anderson connectors.
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eschlanser
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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"I finally broke down and bought this crimper and I'm still kicking myself in the rear for not doing it earlier. This crimper will make a very reliable and firm crimp along the full length of the wire insertion barrel."
What crimper are you/he talking about? I can't see a crimper if there's one there.
Eric
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject: Anderson PowerPole connectors |
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At 03:13 PM 1/15/2013, you wrote:
| Quote: | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "eschlanser" <eschlanser(at)yahoo.com>
"I finally broke down and bought this crimper and I'm still kicking myself in the rear for not doing it earlier. This crimper will make a very reliable and firm crimp along the full length of the wire insertion barrel."
What crimper are you/he talking about? I can't see a crimper if there's one there. |
Probably this one
http://tinyurl.com/89zqkub
It's a b-crimp tool for use with the open barrel
terminals from Powerpole and others . . . .
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