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dpark748(at)icloud.com
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 Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
Dave Park
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Yes. Though the last couple I have replaced have now done 50 hours +.
I wish I could find the original style "double" springs as supplied by
Europa.
Pete
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On 01/07/16 22:31, david park wrote:
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I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
Dave Park
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dpark748(at)icloud.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:54 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Can you expand on the double springs, I am not familiar with them. It's worth chasing up?
Dave
Dave Park
| Quote: | On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:41, Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> wrote:
Yes. Though the last couple I have replaced have now done 50 hours +. I wish I could find the original style "double" springs as supplied by Europa.
Pete
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> On 01/07/16 22:31, david park wrote:
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> I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
> Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
> They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
> Dave Park
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kheindl(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:20 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Look at Demon Tweeks, part no.SC62
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Can you expand on the double springs, I am not familiar with them. It's worth chasing up?
Dave
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> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:41, Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> wrote:
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>> Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
>> They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
>> Dave Park
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aspenbuild(at)me.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:27 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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David,
Give Martin at CKT a ring. I had the same issue with springs supplied from them, excessive pull required to fit them indicates wrong ones.
Richard
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| Quote: | On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:31, david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> wrote:
I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
Dave Park
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:54 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Hi Dave
They are a similar design to those used in the tail wheel steering, only
much smaller. They were shipped with the original exhaust back in about 99.
Pete
On 01/07/16 22:53, david park wrote:
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Can you expand on the double springs, I am not familiar with them. It's worth chasing up?
Dave
Dave Park
> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:41, Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info> wrote:
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> Yes. Though the last couple I have replaced have now done 50 hours +. I wish I could find the original style "double" springs as supplied by Europa.
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>> On 01/07/16 22:31, david park wrote:
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>> I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
>> Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
>> They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
>> Dave Park
>> Sent from my iPad
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:30 am Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Roger
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| Quote: | On 2 Jul 2016, at 08:26, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild(at)me.com> wrote:
David,
Give Martin at CKT a ring. I had the same issue with springs supplied from them, excessive pull required to fit them indicates wrong ones.
Richard
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> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:31, david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> wrote:
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> I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
> Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
> They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
> Dave Park
> Sent from my iPad
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:02 am Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Dave
Check the holes in the exhaust headers, they probably need deburring? Have a look at the failure point on the spring, is it fatigue or does it look as though it has been eroded?
Graham
On Saturday, 2 July 2016, 9:30, david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com> wrote:
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Roger
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David,
Give Martin at CKT a ring. I had the same issue with springs supplied from them, excessive pull required to fit them indicates wrong ones.
Richard
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> I recently purchased new Exhaust Springs from CKT out of the 10 supplied I have had three fail within 20 hours. The force needed to install them seems excessive, possibly leading to their failure.
> Is anyone else having failures with exhaust springs?
> They must be commercially available in 'similar' design ?
> Dave Park
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pete(at)lawless.info
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:35 am Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Karl the very things! Thanks
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:48 am Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Thanks, ordered.
Dave Park
Dave Park
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust Springs |
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Just a tip for fitting the springs.
I refitted my silencer last week, after removing it to replace all the hoses. It was a real struggle to get the spring back on over the hook, by using long nose vice grips to pull it up and over the hook. I found it much easier to compress the springs by inserting a screwdriver in the bottom of the spring, and pushing upwards to compress the spring, and then slip the top loop over the hook, rather than using the vice grips to pull the spring upwards and over the hook.
Unfortunately, I only discovered this on the last spring ! 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:48 am Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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Bob and All
An easier way; make a loop of locking wire about 3" long, hang it over the hook
at one end of the spring with the other end of the spring installed on the exhaust. Now its easy to grab the loose end of the loop with a mole grip or your locking wire pliers and pull the hook up to the loop on the exhaust.
Actually I think I hooked it to the top loop then pulled it down.
Graham
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Just a tip for fitting the springs.
I refitted my silencer last week, after removing it to replace all the hoses. It was a real struggle to get the spring back on over the hook, by using long nose vice grips to pull it up and over the hook. I found it much easier to compress the springs by inserting a screwdriver in the bottom of the spring, and pushing upwards to compress the spring, and then slip the top loop over the hook, rather than using the vice grips to pull the spring upwards and over the hook.
Unfortunately, I only discovered this on the last spring ! [Rolling Eyes]
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust Springs |
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Guys,
Try this method I thought of whilst struggling to remove and re-fit my exhaust one night in the hangar. You can position the exhaust exactly where you need it with all the springs located, then just snip the tie-wraps. It save on skin and bad language.
All the best.
Carl
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:47 pm Post subject: Exhaust Springs |
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To stop the disintegration of springs I was told to rub heat resistant sealant (red stuff forgot name)on the springs once sprung. Mine have lasted 13 years.
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