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 Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:49 am Post subject: printing aircraft |
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how much longer before an ultralight is printed>>
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probably not as long as you think. There has already been a car printed.
I have an app which enables a small object to be assembled from drawings on the computer and if the result is sent to the company they will print out in three dimensions whatever has been designed. Incredible.
When I mentioned this to my grandchildren they were unimpressed and told me that they had a 3d Printer at school.
The world is shifting under our feet.
Pat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:31 am Post subject: printing aircraft |
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I've no doubt that, right now, many of the components could be printed ... e.g. ribs... (Some, probably not so much, e.g., sails.) But it would be cool to have a 3D printer that, using a composite formula, would print the whole thing, from bottom to top, excluding non-printable stuff like sails, tires, etc.. I would think that, in theory, you could make something much, much lighter, in sum, than the lightest (in sum) UL currently made by conventional methods.
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[quote] how much longer before an ultralight is printed>>
Hi,
probably not as long as you think. There has already been a car printed.
I have an app which enables a small object to be assembled from drawings on the computer and if the result is sent to the company they will print out in three dimensions whatever has been designed. Incredible.
When I mentioned this to my grandchildren they were unimpressed and told me that they had a 3d Printer at school.
The world is shifting under our feet.
Pat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: printing aircraft |
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Robert,
what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the normal way.
Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It was 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
Pat
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rlaird
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Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... I've seen some incredible examples, one of a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere, with each sphere exquisitely "carved", something that would be truly impossible to do any other way. So, yeah, doing the impossible is why this is such an incredible technology.
I think the next step is the ability to extrude different materials -- each with unique properties -- so that when printing, unique capabilities can be added... things like bearings, ceramic cylinders, etc. When we get to that stage, then people won't have to buy small appliances any longer, they'll just buy the "plans", it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer, and the appliance will simply be printed. (Ideally, old appliances can be de-constituted into its component parts, and the material re-used into the next appliance.)
I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a working engine... but if ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why not. And, with enough resolution and control, sails should be able to be printed, too.
So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a fully printable aircraft.
If only we could print gasoline/petrol! haha.
-- R
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
[quote] Robert,
what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the normal way.
Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It was 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
Pat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: printing aircraft |
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Hiu guys , About 3d printer try "youtube 3d radial aircraft engine "to see something incredable !
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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From: Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: printing aircraft
Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... I've seen some incredible examples, one of a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere, with each sphere exquisitely "carved", something that would be truly impossible to do any other way. So, yeah, doing the impossible is why this is such an incredible technology.
I think the next step is the ability to extrude different materials -- each with unique properties -- so that when printing, unique capabilities can be added... things like bearings, ceramic cylinders, etc. When we get to that stage, then people won't have to buy small appliances any longer, they'll just buy the "plans", it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer, and the appliance will simply be printed. (Ideally, old appliances can be de-constituted into its component parts, and the material re-used into the next appliance.)
I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a working engine... but if ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why not. And, with enough resolution and control, sails should be able to be printed, too.
So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a fully printable aircraft.
If only we could print gasoline/petrol! haha.
-- R
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Robert,
what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the normal way.
Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It was 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
Pat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject: printing aircraft |
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Try this www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1eKadlPC4w
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
To: "kolb-list(at)matronics.com" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: printing aircraft
Hiu guys , About 3d printer try "youtube 3d radial aircraft engine "to see something incredable !
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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From: Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: printing aircraft
Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... I've seen some incredible examples, one of a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere, with each sphere exquisitely "carved", something that would be truly impossible to do any other way. So, yeah, doing the impossible is why this is such an incredible technology.
I think the next step is the ability to extrude different materials -- each with unique properties -- so that when printing, unique capabilities can be added... things like bearings, ceramic cylinders, etc. When we get to that stage, then people won't have to buy small appliances any longer, they'll just buy the "plans", it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer, and the appliance will simply be printed. (Ideally, old appliances can be de-constituted into its component parts, and the material re-used into the next appliance.)
I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a working engine... but if ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why not. And, with enough resolution and control, sails should be able to be printed, too.
So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a fully printable aircraft.
If only we could print gasoline/petrol! haha.
-- R
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Robert,
what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the normal way.
Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It was 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
Pat
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