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henrysfork1(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: Program

There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas where I might find it?



Dee

Model ll

KFM 112

N345DY





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In a similar forum discussion, John McBean offered this reply:



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How to Cure a Heavy Wing



Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight.



You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure you are qualified and comfortable with making changes and test flying your aircraft.



Knowing that you are not the builder... I would suggest a reset... assume nothing.



Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct installation..

Set the wings back to the standard known condition and start from there.



Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree dihedral. Check length of the rod end thread.



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		  From that point you can adjust either side.. we will typically decrease the angle of incidence first then increase on the opposite wing if needed. try to make changes equal.


	


For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a heavy left wing as they say

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: Program

Dee,



I have an Excel spreadsheet for a Model 5 if you think that would help.

Also, there's an EAA webinar scheduled for the near future on weight and balance if you want to learn more on that subject.

Rick Weiss

Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) 

Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View

Spruce Creek Fly-In, FL

MDKitfox(at)aol.com (MDKitfox(at)aol.com)



On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:

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		       There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas where I might find it? 

 

 Dee

 Model ll

 KFM 112

 N345DY

 

 

 

 

 Sent from Samsung tablet 

 

 dholly <oue191(at)yahoo.com (oue191(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dholly" <oue191(at)yahoo.com (oue191(at)yahoo.com)>

 

 In a similar forum discussion, John McBean offered this reply:

 

 ------------------------------------------

 

 How to Cure a Heavy Wing

 

 Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight. 

  

 You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure you are qualified and comfortable with making changes and test flying your aircraft.

 

 Knowing that you are not the builder... I would suggest a reset... assume nothing.

 

 Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct installation.. 

 Set the wings back to the standard known condition and start from there.

 

 Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree dihedral. Check length of the rod end thread.

 

 >From that point you can adjust either side.. we will typically decrease the angle of incidence first then increase on the opposite wing if needed. try to make changes equal.

 

 For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a heavy left wing as they say. 

 

 We have determined that we do not have a yaw issue that is causing the left turn.

 

 We adjust the right wing rear lift strut rod end out 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)

 

 Not enough.. so now we'll adjust the left wing rear lift strut rod end in one turn.. record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased Twist (wash-out)

 

 Still not enough.. adjust the right wing front lift strut rod end in 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)

 

 Still not enough.. adjust the left wing front lift strut rod end out 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased Twist (wash-out)

 

 You may need to make a 1/2 turn or maybe a 1 1/2 turn all depends on the severity of the roll rate... 

 __________________

 John McBean

 www.kitfoxaircraft.com

 208.337.5111

 

 --------

 -Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs

 -Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395688#395688

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: Program

On 03/07/2013 07:04 PM, Richard Weiss       wrote:

     

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		  Dee,       

       

       I have an Excel spreadsheet for a Model 5 if you think that         would help.

       

       

       Also, there's an EAA webinar scheduled for the near future on         weight and balance if you want to learn more on that subject.

       

       

                Rick Weiss

           Series V (Skystar s/n 1) Speedster:-) 

           Rotax 912S, Dynon Sky View

           Spruce Creek Fly-In, FL

           MDKitfox(at)aol.com (MDKitfox(at)aol.com)

         

         

         

           On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:

                       	  Quote: 	
		                                           There used to be a weight and balance program foating               around out there. I used it for my model 2 on the original               build. Any ideas where I might find it?               

               

               Dee

               Model ll

               KFM 112

               N345DY

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 Sent from Samsung tablet               

               

               dholly <oue191(at)yahoo.com (oue191(at)yahoo.com)>               wrote:

                                    --> Kitfox-List message                       posted by: "dholly" <oue191(at)yahoo.com (oue191(at)yahoo.com)>

                       

                       In a similar forum discussion, John McBean offered                       this reply:

                       

                       ------------------------------------------

                       

                       How to Cure a Heavy Wing

                       

                       Re: Trying to correct left roll in cruise flight.                       

                        

                       You are entering the "Test Pilot" stage. Be sure                       you are qualified and comfortable with making                       changes and test flying your aircraft.

                       

                       Knowing that you are not the builder... I would                       suggest a reset... assume nothing.

                       

                       Check the horizontal stabilizer for correct                       installation.. 

                       Set the wings back to the standard known condition                       and start from there.

                       

                       Refer to your manual. 1 degree twist and 1 degree                       dihedral. Check length of the rod end thread.

                       

                       >From that point you can adjust either side..                       we will typically decrease the angle of incidence                       first then increase on the opposite wing if                       needed. try to make changes equal.

                       

                       For example.. We have a slight left turn.. or a                       heavy left wing as they say. 

                       

                       We have determined that we do not have a yaw issue                       that is causing the left turn.

                       

                       We adjust the right wing rear lift strut rod end                       out 1 turn... record our change and pre-flight for                       a test flight. Decreased Twist (wash-out)

                       

                       Not enough.. so now we'll adjust the left wing                       rear lift strut rod end in one turn.. record our                       change and pre-flight for a test flight. Increased                       Twist (wash-out)

                       

                       Still not enough.. adjust the right wing front                       lift strut rod end in 1 turn... record our change                       and pre-flight for a test flight. Decreased Twist                       (wash-out)

                       

                       Still not enough.. adjust the left wing front lift                       strut rod end out 1 turn... record our change and                       pre-flight for a test flight. Increased Twist                       (wash-out)

                       

                       You may need to make a 1/2 turn or maybe a 1 1/2                       turn all depends on the severity of the roll                       rate...                       

                       __________________

                       John McBean

                       www.kitfoxaircraft.com

                       208.337.5111

                       

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                       -Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100                       Amphibs

                       -Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       Read this topic online here:

                       

                       http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395688#395688

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: Program

On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, henrysfork1 wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  There used to be a weight and balance program foating around out 

there. I used it for my model 2 on the original build. Any ideas 

where I might find it?


	


Murle Williams has one on his web site:



   http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/downloads.html



Mike G.

Phoenix, AZ

Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster/Kitfox Series 6

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