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vincefrazier(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:10 am Post subject: internet sales taxes

 Most guys on this list are probably planning to buy, or already have  bought a lot of stuff from various online retailers like Aircraft  Spruce, or maybe even from us, Flyboy Accessories.  The feds and the  states want to enact new sales taxes on internet sales.  If this  happens, it will drive many small companies, like Flyboy Accessories,  right out of business.  There is NO way that we'd be able to handle the  additional work required to track sales taxes for 49 other states  (including those who don't currently have a sales tax... we'd still have  to track it!).



Currently, the buyer (you) are responsible to  remit sales taxes to your state on anything you buy from out of state.  I  know that compliance to this regulation is sometimes slim, but that is  no reason to shift the liability to the innocent merchant!

 

How does an internet sales tax affect you?  Well, if you live in a  state where there is no sales tax, your choices of where to buy will  decrease and prices will go up.  If you live in any of the other states  where there is a sales tax, your choices of where to buy will decrease  and prices will go up.... AND if you're building an airplane, you're  gonna have to prove to your Department of Revenue which items on your  plane have already had the tax paid and which haven't. 



I  recently contact the Indiana DoR and asked how they'd handle this.  They  said that they had no mechanism to handle it.  So, basically until the  states catch up with the new tax code (which they probably won't do for a  small niche like aviation) then there's a very good chance that you'll  pay double sales taxes on many of your purchases!  In other words, when  you register your plane and the state says "Where's my sales tax money?"  you'll have to either jump through hoops to convince them that you've  already paid, or you'll simply pay the taxes again!



This  discussion could devolve into a big anti-government thread.  Please  refrain from that.  We all agree that the government is far too big and  out of control.  On the new sales tax topic, please direct your energies  toward contacting your federal and state representatives and  senators... particularly the FEDERAL ones!  I have attached a sample  letter to them below my signature.  



Again, I'd strongly  encourage you to make time today to contact your two U.S. senators and  your U.S. congressman and pass the message below, or a similar message,  to them either by phone, email, or  snail mail.  Emailing them is easily done through their contact form  online.  You won't find a bona fide email address and must use the  contact form on their website for most federal officials.

Thanks,



Vince Frazier

Flyboy Accessories

3963 Caborn Road North

Mount Vernon, IN 47620

812-464-1839

1-888-8FLYBOY

 1-888-835-9269

www.flyboyaccessories.com



As a small business customer, I can tell you that the  surefire way to kill a small business is to add new onerous regulations  to the already overwhelming burden that the government has already  saddled them with. 

 

There has been much talk about adding internet sales taxes to  "level" the playing field.  This is baloney.  The field is already  heavily tilted toward large businesses like Walmart.  Adding new  internet sales taxes is a MONEY GRAB and will KILL SMALL BUSINESS  INNOVATION.  

 

Is that what you really want?  I doubt it.



1. Vote No against adding Internet Sales Taxes to the Budget Resolution.

2. Don't be fooled, real people don't want new tax burdens of any kind on the Internet.

  3. New taxes on the Internet will hurt consumers, small businesses, jobs and growth.

4.  No small business should ever be able to be sued by another state where  they have no connection or right to vote and be dragged into that  states’ courts.



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ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: internet sales taxes

I think I hear violins playing...or is it whining?



"If this  happens, it will drive many small companies, like Flyboy Accessories,  right out of business."



So you admit your business model depends on unfair subsidies from those who DO pay taxes.



"There is NO way that we'd be able to handle the  additional work required to track sales taxes for 49 other states  (including those who don't currently have a sales tax... we'd still have  to track it!)."

Oh, dear, that IS a chore, tracking 50 different tax entities! You poor thing, you'll have to stay up all night keeping track! Of course, it's not 50 states you'd track, it's a few thousand tax boundaries (counties, cities, etc). Of course, no enterprising 3rd party company will ever be created to track these for you and the hundreds of thousands of other on-line businesses...naw, that's too obvious.

  

"Currently, the buyer (you) are responsible to  remit sales taxes to your state on anything you buy from out of state.    I  know that compliance to this regulation is sometimes slim, but that is  no reason to shift the liability to the innocent merchant!"

I DO pay my use taxes each year on my out-of-state purchases. Since I can track my purchases, I see no hardship to the "innocent" merchant.

  

"2. Don't be fooled, real people don't want new tax burdens of any kind on the Internet."





Screw you. Real people don't want corporate subsidies.



Flyboy Accessories will never get my business...and building an RV-9A, I spend a lot.

  



Ralph Finch

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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: internet sales taxes

Ralph, 



Actually it is not a corporate subsidy, it is a subsidy for those buying the product, as the business is still paying its taxes, it is the consumer who is not paying their taxes.  



 



Right or wrong what the internet next is trying to do is force the business to collect the consumers portion of the tax for them and then pay it to the state that it is owed.  It is hard to see why it should be the job of a company that operates out of state A being forced to follow the tax codes of state B just because consumers are not following the law the way you are Ralph.

 



john





On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com (ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 [quote]I think I hear violins playing...or is it whining?



"If this  happens, it will drive many small companies, like Flyboy Accessories,  right out of business."

So you admit your business model depends on unfair subsidies from those who DO pay taxes.



"There is NO way that we'd be able to handle the  additional work required to track sales taxes for 49 other states  (including those who don't currently have a sales tax... we'd still have  to track it!)."



Oh, dear, that IS a chore, tracking 50 different tax entities! You poor thing, you'll have to stay up all night keeping track! Of course, it's not 50 states you'd track, it's a few thousand tax boundaries (counties, cities, etc). Of course, no enterprising 3rd party company will ever be created to track these for you and the hundreds of thousands of other on-line businesses...naw, that's too obvious. 

  

"Currently, the buyer (you) are responsible to  remit sales taxes to your state on anything you buy from out of state.    I  know that compliance to this regulation is sometimes slim, but that is  no reason to shift the liability to the innocent merchant!"



I DO pay my use taxes each year on my out-of-state purchases. Since I can track my purchases, I see no hardship to the "innocent" merchant. 

  

"2. Don't be fooled, real people don't want new tax burdens of any kind on the Internet."







Screw you. Real people don't want corporate subsidies.



 Flyboy Accessories will never get my business...and building an RV-9A, I spend a lot.

  



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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: internet sales taxes

Sorry Ralph, but I think you're way out       of line.  What sales business experience do you have?  I've had a       few in my lifetime and the paperwork (which I absolutely hate) and       crappy customers killed them all.  Vince asked to not start a war       ... but you had to respond .... and yes, I am too.

       I'm in FL, and the FL IRS says if you have physical presence in       the state then you must collect sales tax.  Pretty much the same       in other states.  It's just another way for bloated state Gov't to       add another tax without doing anything to support those vendors in       other states.  Yep, you spend a lot through catalogs and internet       sales and report your sales tax .... as you should but now you       want to place that onus on small businesses.  That's a shame.

       Linn .... last call

       

       On 3/18/2013 11:11 AM, Ralph Finch wrote:

     

     [quote]                I think I hear violins playing...or is it whining?

           

           "If this happens, it will drive many small companies, like             Flyboy Accessories, right out of business."

           

           So you admit your business model depends on unfair subsidies           from those who DO pay taxes.

           

           "There is NO way that we'd be able to handle the additional             work required to track sales taxes for 49 other states             (including those who don't currently have a sales tax...             we'd still have to track it!)."

           

         

         Oh, dear, that IS a chore, tracking 50 different tax entities!         You poor thing, you'll have to stay up all night keeping track!         Of course, it's not 50 states you'd track, it's a few thousand         tax boundaries (counties, cities, etc). Of course, no         enterprising 3rd party company will ever be created to track         these for you and the hundreds of thousands of other on-line         businesses...naw, that's too obvious.

         

           "Currently, the buyer (you) are responsible to remit sales             taxes to your state on anything you buy from out of             state.    I know that compliance to this regulation is             sometimes slim, but that is no reason to shift the liability             to the innocent merchant!"

           

         

         I DO pay my use taxes each year on my out-of-state           purchases. Since I can track my purchases, I see no hardship           to the "innocent" merchant.

           

           "2. Don't be fooled, real people don't want new tax               burdens of any kind on the Internet."

               

             

         Screw you. Real people don't want corporate subsidies.

               

             Flyboy Accessories will never get my business...and           building an RV-9A, I spend a lot.

         

         

           Ralph Finch

         

       

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