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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:35 am Post subject: Panel design

Guys

 

Not directly related with RV-10’s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout.

 

Regards

Carlos 

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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Panel design

A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap.

John

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:21 am Post subject: Panel design

I use TurboCAD software. It is relatively inexpensive. If you found some free CAD software that would allow for 2D design and output to DWG or DXF format, that should work well. Then you just need to draw up your instruments and your radio stack and work on the arrangement on the panel with the constraints behind the panel taken into account.

 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

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On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:

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		  Guys

 

Not directly related with RV-10’s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout.

 

Regards

Carlos



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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:16 am Post subject: Panel design

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		  I used XPanel. Its not free but IMHO its worth the $80.00. It saves much time with the RV blank panel templates pre-designated plus all the avionics I needed already in the system. Simple enough to learn and use.

If you want free; Google Chrome has a free CAD style app you can download for free and use to lay out a kitchen, backyard or panel. Just go to the Chrome app store. Sorry on my tablet now or would send you a link.

Robin


Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt> wrote:


	
   

Guys 

  

Not directly related with RV-10’s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software  to help design the instrument panel layout. 

  

Regards 

Carlos  

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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:07 am Post subject: Panel design

I know John, I did it several times many moons ago ...

 

But having a simple to use software, which has the actual digital pictures of the various equipments that can be dragged with the mouse to the panel is really that simple. No learning curve at all.

 

By the way, I do remember using, not so long ago, one called “epanelbuilder” or something like that, that I can’t seem to find now. Anyone knows about this?

 

Carlos  

 

 

 

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glastar(at)gmx.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: Panel design

On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm 

"sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind.



Werner



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 A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap.

 John



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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: Panel design

Werner

 

For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will use that technique or something similar.

 

What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and what don’t …. Initial approach to the layout

 

Carlos 

 

 

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: Panel design

Carlos

You can use Panel Planner to do the layout. It has templates that also have  slave requirements for behind the panel. 

You can drag and rearrange until you are happy with the result. 

Cheers

Les



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On 2013-03-20, at 9:53 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:



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Werner

 

For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will use that technique or something similar.

 

What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and what donâ€™t â€¦. Initial approach to the layout

 

Carlos 

 

 

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rv10flyer(at)live.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:27 am Post subject: Panel design

If you own Photoshop, or visio or can locate a free app that can read the  Vans panel than should be able to grab pictures off of brochures or on the web  of your planned avionics and place it on the Vans panel. I think I measured all  the dimensions than made the templates in Visio once I worked out the spacing  issues I put it all in photoshop to see how it all looked.

  

    

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Werner 

  

For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will  use that technique or something similar. 

  

What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to  figure out what goes where, what fits and what donâ€™t â€¦. Initial approach to the  layout 

  

Carlos  

  

  

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Gordon Anderson

Joined: 16 Apr 2012
Posts: 41
Location: Switzerland

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: Panel design

Hi Carlos,



If you're after 2D CAD software, you can download Dassault DraftSight free.  This is not a "panel planner" in the sense of showing the instruments and avionics, but more of a "hole planner" and something you can then use to CNC cut the panel.

Attached is the .dwg file for my RV-10 panel (in development).

Cheers,

Gordon



 



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Not directly related with RV-10’s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout.

 

Regards

Carlos



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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: Panel design

One thing to keep in mind .....       equipment mounting data can be had from the manufacturer but may       not include the dimensions of the bezel ..... which you need to       know when mounting items close together.

       Linn

       

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Werner         

          

For the actual layout in the panel, in order to             cut the holes, I will use that technique or something             similar.         

          

What I am looking right now is to begin from             scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and             what don’t …. Initial approach to the layout         

          

Carlos          

          

          

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On my Glastar I did the paper setup           first then used an acrylic 3mm "sheet" to mount them, so I           could see what is behind.         

          

Werner         

          

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 A large sheet of paper cut to the           size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a           learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap.         

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Bob Turner

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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Panel design

Don't forget to sit in the real airplane, in the actual flying seating position, and look at paper cutouts on the panel. You can check the ease and feel as you reach for things; that nothing important is hidden under the glare shield; and that important things like the PFD are in focus (important for me as I wear bifocals!).

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aircraftspecialty(at)gmai
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: Panel design

We will be making an announcement once we get the website fully updated.  We are planning on videos of the whole process.

But for now, if you are interested, we offer Cnc design, panel cutting, powdercoat and screen labeling of panels at incredible prices.  We will make an announcement once we have the full site up, but go to

www.aircraftspecialty.com 

for more Information.

Or, please email us at

steve(at)aircraftspecialty.com (steve(at)aircraftspecialty.com)

We have already started designing and cutting panels and would be happy to work with you.  We are home builders and will be happy to help you with all the little ins and outs of getting your panel perfect.

Have a great day

Steve



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On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:06, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:



[quote]  <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->

I know John, I did it several times many moons ago ...

 

But having a simple to use software, which has the actual digital pictures of the various equipments that can be dragged with the mouse to the panel is really that simple. No learning curve at all.

 

By the way, I do remember using, not so long ago, one called â€œepanelbuilderâ€ or something like that, that I canâ€™t seem to find now. Anyone knows about this?

 

Carlos  

 

 

 

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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: Panel design

In addition to Bob's excellent advice, when it comes to switch layout; think 

about a logical order of switch usage i.e. going down a row rather than 

jumping around when running the checklist.

Also consider where the important autopilot power switch and fuel pump 

switches will be; these should readily available and easily reached. 

Finally the primary flight display should be as close to centered in front 

of the pilots head as possible.  Looking cross cockpit at the flight display 

will bug you.  Stay away from unconventional arrangements; most certified 

panels are similar for a reason, they work.  A good conventional panel will 

add much to your enjoyment of the airplane and add to resale value.



Dick Sipp

470 hours



Dick Sipp



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cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: Panel design

One other tip in case it helps.  I used the plastic covers for switches to make them easily identifiable and layer them in an order that makes sense to me.  I used red for power (battery and alternator), green for avionics (cause they cost  a lot of money), blue for fuel pump, white for lights and yellow for pitot heat.  This way a quick glance and I'm ready for any phase be it engine start, takeoff or shutdown.



Cheers,

Marcus



On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net> wrote:






In addition to Bob's excellent advice, when it comes to switch layout; think about a logical order of switch usage i.e. going down a row rather than jumping around when running the checklist.

Also consider where the important autopilot power switch and fuel pump switches will be; these should readily available and easily reached. Finally the primary flight display should be as close to centered in front of the pilots head as possible.  Looking cross cockpit at the flight display will bug you.  Stay away from unconventional arrangements; most certified panels are similar for a reason, they work.  A good conventional panel will add much to your enjoyment of the airplane and add to resale value.



Dick Sipp

470 hours



Dick Sipp



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