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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

I just read an article in the RV  builders hotline about some very poor quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

On 06/10 10:18, John Furey wrote:

> I just read an article in the RV builders hotline about some very poor
> quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare
> occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but
> don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?

Hi John,

Mine are fantastic quality. Zero complaints. Well except for the fact that
they pre-drill for vans pitot tube, but you can fill that with a steel snap
fitting.

Now the shipping was a different story. The crate was destroyed on one end
and there was some scuffing of the wing skins since the wings were a bit loose.
But overall the structure was fine, just buff it out.

I've watched and helped another builder build his wings. I'm glad I didn't
have to do it, twice, booooorrrriiinnngggggg. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

John Furey wrote:
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I just read an article in the RV builders hotline about some very poor
quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare
occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks
but don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?

The issues discussed were pretty ugly. Perhaps they had a
batch of bad parts and didn't realize it. Not sure, but
thankfully my QB wings (delivered Feb 2004) don't have
these problems.

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Mickey Coggins
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

For what its worth, my wings were delivered damaged.  After a call to Vans and an e-mail with a picture to Scott I returned them and they were fixed.  No charge.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

John,
My QB wings and fuse arrived together a couple of years ago and I confess I had some misgivings about what to expect concerning the quality of the build.
I have to tell you that I was pleasantly amazed at what I saw, and I have yet to see a SB kit that was assembled and riveted as straight and with any more attention to detail than my parts were.
 
What I found with my QB kit has been what I have read from others to find the same, so if there's a bad one out there, it's the exception rather than the rule.
 
Vern

 
On 6/10/06, John Furey <john(at)fureychrysler.com (john(at)fureychrysler.com)> wrote:
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I just read an article in the RV  builders hotline about some very poor quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?
 
John Furey
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

I received my RV6-A QB in Jan. 2000 and the quality of assembly was "Top
Shelf!" The RV flies hands off with absolutely no adjustment including not
needing rudder trim. I am building an F1-Rocket now so my RV6-A will have a
hanger mate. The F1 will also be a quick build.

Tom in
Ohio
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

I got my QB -8 wings and fuse in April this year, I picked them up at the factory they are Bonanza, Philippines made, They appear to be excellent quality, I haven't started working on them yet,.,
Dan
-8
Lake Stevens WA

John Furey <john(at)fureychrysler.com> wrote:
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I just read an article in the RV  builders hotline about some very poor quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?
 
John Furey
2 RV6A slow builds
1 RV7 QB (maybe)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

John

I was just at the Van's factory and got a close look at the in coming QBs.
They were all excellent.
I am building a 7A SB and a friend has a QB. Both the wings and the fuse
were done to very high standards.

Frank (at) SGU and SLC.........Finishing up the Tip Up Canopy!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Dan <dan(at)rdan.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Quality
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:47:52 -0700 (PDT)

I got my QB -8 wings and fuse in April this year, I picked them up at the
factory they are Bonanza, Philippines made, They appear to be excellent
quality, I haven't started working on them yet,.,
Dan
-8
Lake Stevens WA

John Furey <john(at)fureychrysler.com> wrote:
I just read an article in the RV builders hotline about some very
poor quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare
occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but
don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?

John Furey
2 RV6A slow builds
1 RV7 QB (maybe)



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

John:

Just got home from Golden West Fly-In. The same question was asked to Miles
who was giving the talk for Van's Aircraft. Miles is in charge of QUALITY
on the QB kits. He says he fixes everything that is not perfect. If you
have a problem with quick build quality, give him a call on Monday when he
is back in the office.

As an EAA TC and an AB DAR, I have not seen ANY QB product from Van's that
was not better than what the average first time builder can do. (The QB
products from Van's that I have seen are better quality than what I have
seen done by first time builders.)

Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,868 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com


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From: "John Furey" <john(at)fureychrysler.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Quality
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:18:42 -0400

I just read an article in the RV builders hotline about some very poor
quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent issue or a rare
occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in the next few weeks but
don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has been your experience?

John Furey
2 RV6A slow builds
1 RV7 QB (maybe)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Quality Reply with quote

My RV-6A QB was 10 years ago almost now, but the
workmanship was perfect. Not sure if the same outfit
is doing it, but my understanding is you can't really
beat the quality today.

Paul Besing
--- RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

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<rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com>

John:

Just got home from Golden West Fly-In. The same
question was asked to Miles
who was giving the talk for Van's Aircraft. Miles
is in charge of QUALITY
on the QB kits. He says he fixes everything that is
not perfect. If you
have a problem with quick build quality, give him a
call on Monday when he
is back in the office.

As an EAA TC and an AB DAR, I have not seen ANY QB
product from Van's that
was not better than what the average first time
builder can do. (The QB
products from Van's that I have seen are better
quality than what I have
seen done by first time builders.)



Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,868 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com




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To: <rv-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Quality
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:18:42 -0400

I just read an article in the RV builders hotline
about some very poor
quality on quick build wings. Is this a prevalent
issue or a rare
occurrence? I have a 7 QB that is to be shipped in
the next few weeks but
don't want it if the workmanship is bad. What has
been your experience?

John Furey
2 RV6A slow builds
1 RV7 QB (maybe)






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