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Alan Carter



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Hello All
I have a Rotax FlyDat on my 914,
I notice it has a small battery located on the back side.
Master switch on, Flydat cycles, shows temp,and hours,
turn the key ,Starting the engine and display recycles nothing showing till after its completed its cycle, then come in with all the temps and pressures.
But during the vital starting stage I have nothing showing.????

Alan


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:21 am    Post subject: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Hi Alan,
If your Flydat is an old unit then this defect you refer to is because it
thinks you have exceeded some limit or other. If this is so you need to have
the unit reset by a Rotax specialist who will have the necessary software to
interpret the parameters stored and advise you of any required special
checks that may need to be carried out.
More recent FlyDats do not do this as having the screen going blank during
and immediately after start is not very clever.
I hope this helps and also hope it does not involve you in too much expense.

Pete

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Hi Peter.
Many thanks, I have had the problem since i purchased the plane, and the
last owner said he had it also, so its been like it for a long time.
I thought it might be something to do with the battery, but have heard a
slight event can trigger this, sometime as simple as out of limit
temperature.
I must admit i rarely scan the thing, its down the bottom out of sight, and
the LCD are not easy to see, for me a red needle on a gauge pointing in the
correct known position would be better.
But i does work, one day i was climbing out and the red warning light on the
panel came one, too slow a climb, nose to high, water temp out of limits.
I will have to get the blood thing reset as i would be nice to see it during
start up, I'm really not a bad pilot, but this is probably the main time i
would be watching it as
its tucked away down by my knees .

Regards
Alan

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Check the power going to the FlyDat during start up. Most likely it is falling below some preset level at which the FlyDat cannot function. Since it has happened from day one, the fault may be in your electrical architecture and not the unit itself.

Rick Girard

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net (alancarteresq(at)onetel.net)> wrote:
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Hi Peter.
Many thanks, I have had the problem since i purchased the plane, and the last owner said he had it also, so its been like it for a long time.
I thought it might be something to do with the battery, but have heard a slight event can trigger this, sometime as simple as out of limit temperature.
I must admit i rarely scan the thing, its down the bottom out of sight, and the LCD are not easy to see, for me a red needle on a gauge pointing in the correct known position would be better.
But i does work, one day i was climbing out and the red warning light on the panel came one, too slow a climb, nose to high, water temp out of limits.
I will have to get the blood thing reset as i would be nice to see it during start up, I'm really not a bad pilot, but this is probably the main time i would be watching it as
its tucked away down by my knees .

Regards
Alan



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Dang, I hit send and not return. Anyway, one solution might be to install a small battery, say a 2AH SLA to drive the FlyDat and connect it to the system through a diode so that the starter cannot draw it down, but the system can keep it charged.

Rick

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Check the power going to the FlyDat during start up. Most likely it is falling below some preset level at which the FlyDat cannot function. Since it has happened from day one, the fault may be in your electrical architecture and not the unit itself.

Rick Girard

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net (alancarteresq(at)onetel.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net (alancarteresq(at)onetel.net)>


Hi Peter.
Many thanks, I have had the problem since i purchased the plane, and the last owner said he had it also, so its been like it for a long time.
I thought it might be something to do with the battery, but have heard a slight event can trigger this, sometime as simple as out of limit temperature.
I must admit i rarely scan the thing, its down the bottom out of sight, and the LCD are not easy to see, for me a red needle on a gauge pointing in the correct known position would be better.
But i does work, one day i was climbing out and the red warning light on the panel came one, too slow a climb, nose to high, water temp out of limits.
I will have to get the blood thing reset as i would be nice to see it during start up, I'm really not a bad pilot, but this is probably the main time i would be watching it as
its tucked away down by my knees .

Regards
Alan



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Alan Carter



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Hi Richard.
I think it is as Peter said, but not in these words,
Its part of the Rotax design feature, to show a message Saying Service, then goes blank and recycle and come back online after the engine has started,
A stupid idea, and can only be reset by a Rotax computer,
Which is a nice little earner. What was life like before Flydat, It works, does its job, but a bit of common sense needed.
In the summer maybe i can fly in somewhere and get it reset, the engine done many hours so reasonable confident all is well.
But i do plan to have it reset, and see for myself just what triggers it, should it happen to me.

Alan


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Roland



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Alan,

I have exactly the same problem since the previous engine had an overboost. What you described definately occured since then. I also got the information from Rotax, that the Flydat has to be reset to solve this problem. Rotax Franz (Germany) does that for free (except shipping) as far as I know.

Regards
Roland

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Alan Carter



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Rotax Fly Dat Reply with quote

Hi Roland.
That,s right, i have to send it to a rotax agent in the UK and i think the reset is free, I am happy the engine is OK, as its been like it for more than two years, so i am not worried, but as i have it , i will get it reset.
the last time i was airborne was the 11 December, New Clamps, will send you photo,s .

Alan


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