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andy(at)58November.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Oreder Your 58  November Pilot Bal Cap Today 

 You will be helping  make the documentary film

 58November: First  Captain killed in US Hijacking

  

 Free Shipping in  US/CAN

 at

 http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943

  

 Andy Downs

 58 November

 1756 Cozumel Ct

 Murfreesboro, Tennessee  37128

 USA

 615-474-0590

 Skype: Downs58November

 www.58November.com

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:48 pm Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

In my esteemed opinion, as noble as your cause may be,  this is not a forum that likes postings such as this.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr. RPM))

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andy(at)58November.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Tom,Would you mind offering me why? I am sincerely interested in your thoughts.Andy Downs615-474-0590Andy Downs615-474-0590www.58November.com

From:  "Tom Fisher" <tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca> 

Sender:  owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com 

Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:50:52 -0700

To: <commander-list(at)matronics.com>

ReplyTo:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

 In my esteemed opinion, as noble as your cause = may be,=20 this is not a forum that likes postings such as this.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr. RPM))

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:16 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Since I have been a member on this Commander site it was  used for discussions about Commanders, no one has placed a "Buy now!" ad on the  site until now.

 This is my preference, thought I knew the minds of my  fellow Commander drivers.

 If no one else objects I guess times have changed, fill  your boots.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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white_rhino_ps(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

I'd prefer this not become a marketplace and stay with sharing Commander knowledge.  There are thousands of sales sites already.  



My 2 cents. 



Craig



From my iPhone 5!



On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:18 AM, "Tom Fisher" <tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca> wrote:



[quote] Since I have been a member on this Commander site it was used for discussions about Commanders, no one has placed a "Buy now!" ad on the site until now.

 This is my preference, thought I knew the minds of my fellow Commander drivers.

 If no one else objects I guess times have changed, fill your boots.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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andy(at)58November.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:11 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Tom  and Craig,

  

 First  I want to say I apologize for any hard feelings anyone has about my posts. This  is a unique project that directly pertains to the history of the Commander  series. I think that is why I was referred to this site by one of your  members.

  

 Second, I will not post any more messages like  that.

  

 Third,  I will leave it to the group to decide if they will get behind this project or  not. 

  

 This  hijacking is a lost part of aviation and Commander history. It had legal effects  on law enforcement and PIC authority rights. I hope you will all take the time  to check out out site. I think if you do, you will want to help in some  way.

  

 I am  truly sorry for any offense me or the 58 November has caused anyone. I have  worked on this for years and I sure don;t want to leave a bad note with  anyone.

  

 My  information is listed below. If you would like to help in some way me and my  family would be truly grateful. 

 I do  wish you all well and hope to hear from you in the near  future.

  

 I have  attached a picture for you all of Commander 58 November in Jacksonville after  the hijacking took place. I hope you can appreciate the  gesture.

  

 Thanks,

 Andy  Downs

 1756  Cozumel Court

 Murfreesboro, TN 37127

 615-474-0590

 Andy(at)58November.com (Andy(at)58November.com)

 http://58November.com

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  White_rhino_ps

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:38  AM

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re:  Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

 

 I'd prefer this not become a marketplace and stay with sharing Commander  knowledge.  There are thousands of sales sites already.  

 



 My 2 cents. 

 



 Craig



From my iPhone 5!

 

On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:18 AM, "Tom Fisher" <tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca (tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca)>  wrote:

 [quote]                   Since I have been a member on this Commander site it was    used for discussions about Commanders, no one has placed a "Buy now!" ad on    the site until now.

   This is my preference, thought I knew the minds of my    fellow Commander drivers.

   If no one else objects I guess times have changed, fill    your boots.

   Tom

   (500B)

   (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:23 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Don't get me wrong, I read your post, went to your site  and was further informed in my knowledge of Commanders.

 I am continually disgusted by the antics of some gun  wielding authorities so I feel for you and would support you in your endeavours,  it is just the ad I did not like.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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andy(at)58November.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Tom  & the Commander Group,

  

 I  appreciate the time you took in checking out the link http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943  . I do understand your concerns on ads. You all do have my word that will not  happen again.

  

 I do  hope you will all look at the site and help us make the 58 November project a  reality. No one person can make anything happen in life. This is no different.  As they said in the movie The Right Stuff, "No Bucks, No Buck  Rogers"

  

 This  is a YouTube video of my father trying to negotiate with the FBI agents in  Jacksonville just before their raid was executed. These are the actual ATC tapes  and some of my father's last known words.

 You  will see a picture of my father's 681 Turbo Commander on the  screen

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs

  

 If any  of you know where a 681 Turbo Commander is located these days I would love to  contact the owner. My father's Commander (N-9058N) is now in the Broward County  Community College being used as a maintenance plane for future  A&P's

  

 If any  of you can help please contact me. I do appreciate your concerns and your  support

  

 Thanks,

 Andy  Downs

 615-474-0590

 Andy(at)58November.com (Andy(at)58November.com)

 http://58November.com

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom  Fisher

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:25 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander 58  November Pilot Ball Caps

 

 Don't get me wrong, I read your post, went to your site  and was further informed in my knowledge of Commanders.

 I am continually disgusted by the antics of some gun  wielding authorities so I feel for you and would support you in your endeavours,  it is just the ad I did not like.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

I agree with Tom...no sales!



Don(ex 500S)



Sent from my iPad



On Mar 30, 2013, at 3:18 PM, "Tom Fisher" <tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca> wrote:



[quote] Since I have been a member on this Commander site it was used for discussions about Commanders, no one has placed a "Buy now!" ad on the site until now.

 This is my preference, thought I knew the minds of my fellow Commander drivers.

 If no one else objects I guess times have changed, fill your boots.

 Tom

 (500B)

 (680FLP (Mr.RPM))

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BertBerry1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Here is a couple photos of 58N: taken Sept 1993

  

 http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1193588/

 http://www.airliners.net/photo/1002493/

  

  In a message dated 4/2/2013 2:15:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  yvabe560(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  -->    Commander-List message posted by: "Peter Bichier"    <yvabe560(at)gmail.com>



Andy, 



Thank you for sharing such a    poignant piece of history, I have indeed read all your posts and would gladly    read more. Have you considered writing the full story on a short book, booklet    or blog? I see you have one, but I saw bits and pieces but not an entire story    put together.



For example I still can't figure out if the hijacker    survived or not (it seems that on one of the TV news they were saying he had    survived; but you also mentioned he shot himself).



Anyways, my point is    that may be the story could start taking off on its own as a book, best seller    of sort and then it could be further developed as a documentary.



Sorry    for your terrible loss and best regards to your family and you have our    support in any ways we can.



If in your research or travel you have to    stay close to SFO, let us know, we will gladly take care of you in Santa Cruz    (only 1 hr south).



As far as 681 pictures you have to query "Aero    Commander" or "Twin Commander" or "Aerocommander" "Rockwell Commander" several    picture sites and pick up the 680V, 681, Turbo Commander, 690. I would look    in:



For ex at    www.airliners.net:



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aero-Commander-680V/2041310/L/&sid=55279c8a31cac83a3593e2e55a51dbd6



Check    also:



http://jetphotos.net

http://www.planepictures.net

http://www.airplane-pictures.net

http://www.airteamimages.com



Good    luck,



Sincerely,



Peter Bichier



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From: "andy downs" 

To: 

Subject:       Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps

Date: Sat, Mar 30,    2013    10:11 am



   Tom    & the Commander    Group,

    

   I    appreciate the time    you took in checking out the link http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943    (http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943)    . I do understand your    concerns on ads. You all do have my word that will not    happen    again.

    

   I do    hope you will all    look at the site and help us make the 58 November project a       reality. No one person can make anything happen in life. This is no    different.    As they said in the movie The Right Stuff, "No Bucks,    No Buck    Rogers"

    

   This       is a YouTube video of my father trying to negotiate with the FBI agents    in    Jacksonville just before their raid was executed. These are    the actual ATC    tapes and some of my father's last known    words.

   You    will see a picture of my father's 681    Turbo Commander on the    screen

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs)

    

      If    any of you know where a 681 Turbo Commander is located these    days I would love    to contact the owner. My father's Commander    (N-9058N) is now in the Broward    County Community College being    used as a maintenance plane for future    A&P's

       

   If    any of you can help please contact me. I do    appreciate your concerns and your    support

       

   Thanks,

   Andy       Downs

   615-474-0590

   Andy(at)58November.com    (Andy(at)58November.com)

   http://58November.com    (http://58November.com/)



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