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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

Hi all, I'm looking at various door and baggage locks for my -10.  The baggage door lock is a cam or barrel lock, 5/8" long. 
 
Can those who have installed these same type of locks tell me what length the main door locks need to be?  My intention is to use Steve DiNeri's door handles.
 
I'm actually considering a tubular cam type of lock as they are much more solid with far less play in the lock mechanism.  Maybe overkill but they will make me feel much better tieing down outside when need be.
 
Any opinions welcomed.
 
Rick
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

Rick;
I went to Home depot and bought a couple cabinet locks. Has worked for me without failure on the pilot door and baggage door. I think I just bought what they have, but I’ll see if I can locate something for you this weekend.
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Hi all, I'm looking at various door and baggage locks for my -10. The baggage door lock is a cam or barrel lock, 5/8" long.

Can those who have installed these same type of locks tell me what length the main door locks need to be? My intention is to use Steve DiNeri's door handles.

I'm actually considering a tubular cam type of lock as they are much more solid with far less play in the lock mechanism. Maybe overkill but they will make me feel much better tieing down outside when need be.

Any opinions welcomed.

Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Door locks Reply with quote

My door locks are the same length as the baggage lock. If you want everything keyed alike, you can special order a keyed ignition switch and 3 door/baggage locks from ACS.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

I did the same. The special order only takes about a week extra and they are dropped shipped from the manufacturer. I ordered some extra keys a few weeks ago and they were shipped promptly as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:43 am    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

Aha, that's exactly what I need to know.  Thx Jim.  I did go to Home Depot and buy 3- 5/8" cam locks but I then decided they were too poor a quality to put in an airplane.  I went to ACS and checked out their locks and I then went to a local locksmith. He had better keyed locks, but he also has the tubular cam locks which are way better design, quality etc.  Of course they're more money too.  I intend to use a push to start switch in my plane thus I don't need a keyed ignition switch.

Thx for every ones help.
Rick

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

I use tubular key locks on planes as I find it is much harder to break off a round key compared to a flat key. I don’t lock the canopy/doors as I’d rather have something stolen out of the panel instead of damage from forcing a lock. I also do not use an ignition key other than a “start permissive” key in series with the starter button. This prevents someone from spinning the prop with the starter. For me spam can type single key start/mag select switches are a source of unacceptable single point failure risk – and not compatible with redundant power distribution schemes.

Both planes use Fort Lock MFW1038-80 (as example) cam locks for the baggage door. These are made in America with heavy nickel plating. They are sold under a variety of brand names and run less than $10 each.

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Aha, that's exactly what I need to know. Thx Jim. I did go to Home Depot and buy 3- 5/8" cam locks but I then decided they were too poor a quality to put in an airplane. I went to ACS and checked out their locks and I then went to a local locksmith. He had better keyed locks, but he also has the tubular cam locks which are way better design, quality etc. Of course they're more money too. I intend to use a push to start switch in my plane thus I don't need a keyed ignition switch.

Thx for every ones help.

Rick


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Jim Berry


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:16 am    Post subject: Door locks Reply with quote

Hello Carl
Thx for the info with regards to the tubular cam locks.  I checked out the Fort Lock locks, mostly from Grainger.  I plan to go and order 3 keyed alike locks tomorrow.  Since you mentioned you have a push to start engine switch, do you have a schematic you'd care to share showing how the switch and ignition is wired?  My engine has 2 impulse coupled Slick Mags if that's matters. I haven't taken the time to search for a wiring diagram yet but I do need to start thinking about it.

I liked your description of having a "start permissive" switch in line.  If you know of any other place I could find some "push to start" please let me know.
Thx for any help.


Regards,  Rick
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I use tubular key locks on planes as I find it is much harder to break off a round key compared to a flat key.  I don’t lock the canopy/doors as I’d rather have something stolen out of the panel instead of damage from forcing a lock.  I also do not use an ignition key other than a “start permissive” key in series with the starter button.  This prevents someone from spinning the prop with the starter.  For me spam can type single key start/mag select switches are a source of unacceptable single point failure risk – and not compatible with redundant power distribution schemes.
 
Both planes use Fort Lock MFW1038-80 (as example) cam locks for the baggage door.  These are made in America with heavy nickel plating.  They are sold under a variety of brand names and run less than $10 each.
 
Carl
 
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Aha, that's exactly what I need to know.  Thx Jim.  I did go to Home Depot and buy 3- 5/8" cam locks but I then decided they were too poor a quality to put in an airplane.  I went to ACS and checked out their locks and I then went to a local locksmith. He had better keyed locks, but he also has the tubular cam locks which are way better design, quality etc.  Of course they're more money too.  I intend to use a push to start switch in my plane thus I don't need a keyed ignition switch.

Thx for every ones help.

Rick

 
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My door locks are the same length as the baggage lock. If you want everything keyed alike, you can special order a keyed ignition switch and 3 door/baggage locks from ACS.

Jim Berry


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