Matronics Email Lists :: View topic

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Electronic Ignition
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4 Next

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: Electronic Ignition

Dear Listers, 

As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an alternative electronic ignition for my -10.  I would like a referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have strong preferences in systems?  

  

Thanks, 

Robin 

    [quote][b]

chazking

Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Posts: 8
Location: NorthEast US

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Electronic Ignition

I've used the ElectroAir / Jeff Rose system on an earlier plane. It worked flawlessly. I plan to install it on N1XS this Winter.  In my experience it gives the engine a noticeably stronger sound. I do not have empirical data, though.

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: Electronic Ignition

Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual Lightspeed do the same.

Don McDonald



--- On Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

Subject: Electronic Ignition

To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com"  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM



          

Dear Listers,  

As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an alternative electronic ignition for my -10.  I would like a referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have strong preferences in systems?   

    

Thanks,  

Robin  

     	  Quote: 	
		  tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com 	




	
 [quote][b]

_________________
Don A. McDonald
40636

schmoboy

Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 130

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I was going to try the G3i system, but decided to wait until after the 

bird is flying.  Hadn't heard about any RV-10s with it.



http://www.g3ignition.com/



-Sean #40303



On 5/13/13 10:46 PM, Don McDonald wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost 

 one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus 

 and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and 

 from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, 

 the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the 

 intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down 

 substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual 

 Lightspeed do the same.

 Don McDonald



 --- On *Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks /<robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>/* wrote:

     From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

     Subject: Electronic Ignition

     To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

     Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM



     Dear Listers,



     As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag

     produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an

     alternative electronic ignition for my -10. I would like a

     referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying

     retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have

     strong preferences in systems?



     Thanks,



     Robin



     *tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

     *

rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:43 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

There are several RV-10s with it installed.    I have it, but not flying yet, nut should be In a few weeks. I'm sure that Thomas will  share the other contacts. 



Sent from my iPad



On May 14, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I was going to try the G3i system, but decided to wait until after the bird is flying.  Hadn't heard about any RV-10s with it.

 

 http://www.g3ignition.com/

 

 -Sean #40303

 

 On 5/13/13 10:46 PM, Don McDonald wrote:

> Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual Lightspeed do the same.

> Don McDonald

> 

> --- On *Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks /<robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>/* wrote:

> 

> 

>    From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

>    Subject: Electronic Ignition

>    To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

>    Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM

> 

>    Dear Listers,

> 

>    As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag

>    produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an

>    alternative electronic ignition for my -10. I would like a

>    referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying

>    retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have

>    strong preferences in systems?

> 

>    Thanks,

> 

>    Robin

> 

>    *tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

> 

> 

>    *

_________________
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler

arplnplt(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:29 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I've got it.  It eliminates the need for shower of sparks and gives good redundancy.  My engine runs very smooth with it.  No hot start issues.  Half the cost of other systems and covers all plugs.  Easy install.  No spark advance though.  Thomas can explain his thoughts on this.  Flew it since day one so I have no comparison data.  

Be happy to answer any other questions about the system.



Dave Leikam

414-807-5499

On May 14, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 There are several RV-10s with it installed.    I have it, but not flying yet, nut should be In a few weeks. I'm sure that Thomas will  share the other contacts. 

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On May 14, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> I was going to try the G3i system, but decided to wait until after the bird is flying.  Hadn't heard about any RV-10s with it.

> 

> http://www.g3ignition.com/

> 

> -Sean #40303

> 

> On 5/13/13 10:46 PM, Don McDonald wrote:

>> Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual Lightspeed do the same.

>> Don McDonald

>> 

>> --- On *Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks /<robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>/* wrote:

>> 

>> 

>>   From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

>>   Subject: Electronic Ignition

>>   To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

>>   Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM

>> 

>>   Dear Listers,

>> 

>>   As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag

>>   produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an

>>   alternative electronic ignition for my -10. I would like a

>>   referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying

>>   retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have

>>   strong preferences in systems?

>> 

>>   Thanks,

>> 

>>   Robin

>> 

>>   *tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

>> 

>> 

>>   *

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
Guest

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:57 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

We installed the G3i on my buddies Superior IO-360 in his Cozy MKIV and in addition to easier starting and smoother running, he shaved 9% off his fuel flow at cruise power settings.  I am going stock Slick mags for now and get a bench mark that I can measure to when I install the G3i 



David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI

From: "Sean Stephens" <sean(at)stephensville.com>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:30:19 AM

Subject: Re: RV10-List: Electronic Ignition



--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com>



I was going to try the G3i system, but decided to wait until after the 

bird is flying.  Hadn't heard about any RV-10s with it.



http://www.g3ignition.com/



-Sean #40303



On 5/13/13 10:46 PM, Don McDonald wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost 

 one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus 

 and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and 

 from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, 

 the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the 

 intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down 

 substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual 

 Lightspeed do the same.

 Don McDonald



 --- On *Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks /<robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>/* wrote:

     From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

     Subject: Electronic Ignition

     To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

     Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM



     Dear Listers,



     As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag

     produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an

     alternative electronic ignition for my -10. I would like a

     referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying

     retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have

     strong preferences in systems?



     Thanks,



     Robin



     *tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

 &n=             - List Contribution Web Site ;                     &nb======================


	




 [quote][b]

tomflysalot

Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 27

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:42 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I'm in the engine building business. We've used Electroair systems with great results (real nice system for the 540.. 

 

If you talk to them tell them Tom Lawson (with the Lancair) sent you.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

970-420-1798

  



____________________________________________________________

Political system upset?

Democrats BIG advantage in America about to completely vanish

stansberryresearch.com [quote][b]

rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

Comparison data should be easy to obtain. Just turn it off and run on the mags. ;^).  That's my plan in phase I. 



Sent from my iPhone



On May 14, 2013, at 9:23 AM, David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> wrote:






I've got it.  It eliminates the need for shower of sparks and gives good redundancy.  My engine runs very smooth with it.  No hot start issues.  Half the cost of other systems and covers all plugs.  Easy install.  No spark advance though.  Thomas can explain his thoughts on this.  Flew it since day one so I have no comparison data.  

Be happy to answer any other questions about the system.



Dave Leikam

414-807-5499

On May 14, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 There are several RV-10s with it installed.    I have it, but not flying yet, nut should be In a few weeks. I'm sure that Thomas will  share the other contacts. 

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

 On May 14, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:

 

> 

> 

> I was going to try the G3i system, but decided to wait until after the bird is flying.  Hadn't heard about any RV-10s with it.

> 

> http://www.g3ignition.com/

> 

> -Sean #40303

> 

> On 5/13/13 10:46 PM, Don McDonald wrote:

>> Been flying with dual Lightspeeds for 500+ hours.... only issue, lost one coil.  Easy to find which one based on egt's, and I think Klaus and I determined it was from heat after shutdown.  I have a plenum and from that point on, whenever I stop the plane and put it in my hangar, the next thing is to turn on a fan placed in front of one of the intake holes in the cowl.... about 15 minutes brings the temp down substantially.  No issues since.  Suggest all with single or dual Lightspeed do the same.

>> Don McDonald

>> 

>> --- On *Mon, 5/13/13, Robin Marks /<robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>/* wrote:

>> 

>> 

>>  From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

>>  Subject: Electronic Ignition

>>  To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

>>  Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 6:18 PM

>> 

>>  Dear Listers,

>> 

>>  As it looks like I will be retiring from flying long before e-Mag

>>  produces a 6 cylinder P-Mag I think it is time to search for an

>>  alternative electronic ignition for my -10. I would like a

>>  referral to the best choices available assuming I am I a flying

>>  retrofit situation vs. building from scratch. Do any of you have

>>  strong preferences in systems?

>> 

>>  Thanks,

>> 

>>  Robin

>> 

>>  *tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

>> 

>> 

>>  *

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

_________________
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler

hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Electronic Ignition

I have dual Lightspeed Plasma III's on my Lyco IO-540. Using dual batteries and alternators (Z-14 architecture).



LSE start engine on 1-2 blades and there's no discernible RPM drop between A&B sides during run up. Note that Plasma III boxes require forced cooling and ManP connections for spark advance. Separate wire runs for coax and sensor wires prevent EMF issues. Flywheel timing magnets are required (got LSE to do mine). Behind-prop sensor mounting bracket required drilling/tapping a couple of holes in the case. It turned out fine, but I puckered the whole time all the same. Proper connection of coax outputs to respective coil was an interesting exercise and resulted in a bit of learning on my part.



So far, I like 'em... with one caveat:  Version "A1" box died at 14 hours while on the ground and just after engine start (my other box is version B). The good news is that redundancy worked as expected and the engine just kept right on turning. Wouldn't have have noticed until run up had the circuit breaker hadn't popped and warning LED illuminated. I checked the wiring, called LSE support and sent the offending box in for service. Will report back on whatever is found. Klaus has been friendly and helpful when I've had questions.



Cheers,

Jay

N433RV

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
Guest

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:28 pm Post subject: Electronic Ignition

Yep - the first hard failure in my dual Lightspeed install (RV-8A) was

evidenced with the breaker popping open and not resetting.  I however was in

the air at the time.



I had a troubled experience with this install starting with the kits as they

came out of the box, and just gave up after the problems simply kept coming.

I replace the ignitions with pMags 300 hours ago and can report the pMags

have been flawless.  For the RV-10 I plan on staying with the stock Slick

mags and continue my patient wait for the six cylinder pMags from Brad.



Carl 



--

Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: Electronic Ignition

800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition.

Only problem with the Lightspeed was a coil failure 200 hours ago. On second

mag with several incidents. Love the Lightspeed. Good service on getting the

coil and plugs as needed.

Albert Gardner

N9914RV

Yuma, AZ

_________________
RV-9A N872RV
RV-10 N991RV

jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?



[quote] From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

 

 

 

 800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Electronic Ignition

[quote="jdriggs49(at)msn.com"]I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

 	  Quote: 	
		   From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

 800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition 	

I have about 650 hours and almost five years with no coil problems. In fact, no problems at all. (I hope saying this doesn't jinx me!) I believe Klaus recommends that you replace spark plug wires about every three years or so to reduce stress on the coils. I also have read that keeping plugs gapped properly reduces stress on the coils. Since I am providing transition training, I have to do 100 hour condition inspections, so am replacing the plugs about every 8 or 9 months. The plugs are cheap, so I don't mind that at all. As previously mentioned, the connections on the coils are very important. I also have a plenum, and almost always open my oil door after shutting down to vent heat from the plenum. My main reason for doing this was to help start the hot engine, but perhaps it has helped my coils as well. After saying all of this, I am going to order a spare coil today to carry in the airplane. I am very happy with the Lightspeed EI.

_________________
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I've never had a coil go bad.  I'm guessing most of those

are probably heat related though, if you park hot and don't

open the oil door and vent that heat.  Just a guess anyway.

1.5 short of 950 hours on the system.  I had one of the

pre-cooling-mod units, of much older (before the A's and B's)

lineage, and I did have a problem with that box after

many hundreds of hours.  The tach started reading

wrong at times (I think that was a loose socketed IC),

but I had a few instances of the unit not starting.  Once

the engine was running it has never missed a beat, but

I had a few days where I'd go out cold and it wouldn't

run.  Klaus reworked that and found something in the

power circuit that was intermittent. I don't remember

if it was a solder joint or component.  At any rate, I did

have those 2 problems with the box in the same timeframe.

These days though it's back to purring like a kitten.

I'm not sure what I'll do exactly, on the RV-14.

I'll see what Van's offering will be, but if it doesn't

have E.I., I will most likely go Lightspeed based on

all the quantity of units there are that I've heard good

things on.  I personally fly lots with Scott and Sean

and other RV10's with Lightspeed and everyone has pretty

much good luck.  It has the hottest spark you can

fire, and I listened first hand one day as someone

told Klaus that they don't think their wife would be

alive without the system, as the spark had to fire

through an oily cylinder as their engine came apart,

and the lightspeed kept it running....that guy was

totally sold on it.

So I'd do it again with no problems. I do also

have one other thing that I'm kind of doing with

some critical components....I buy spares.  I know

it's a lot to put on a shelf, but so many of our products

these days are made by 1 person or 1 company.  With

any single source component, especially something

like an electronic ignition, I'd prefer to

have an on-hand spare. If a company owner or key

employee dies, it could be really handy.  Heck, even

with my TruTrak, I'm finding that it may be nice to

have a spare AP control head, because some of the newer

software may break some functions.  But I haven't

splurged on that yet.  I do have spare EFIS's though,

or is that EFII in plural?

Tim

On 5/16/2013 11:11 AM, dmaib(at)me.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 [quote="jdriggs49(at)msn.com"]I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

 Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

>   From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com

>   To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

>   Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

>   Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

>

>   800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition

 I have about 650 hours and almost five years with no coil problems. In fact, no problems at all. (I hope saying this doesn't jinx me!) I believe Klaus recommends that you replace spark plug wires about every three years or so to reduce stress on the coils. I also have read that keeping plugs gapped properly reduces stress on the coils. Since I am providing transition training, I have to do 100 hour condition inspections, so am replacing the plugs about every 8 or 9 months. The plugs are cheap, so I don't mind that at all. As previously mentioned, the connections on the coils are very important. I also have a plenum, and almost always open my oil door after shutting down to vent heat from the plenum. My main reason for doing this was to help start the hot engine, but perhaps it has helped my coils as well. After saying all of this, I am going to order a spare coil today to carry in the airplane. I am very happy with the Lightspeed EI.

 --------

 David Maib

 RV-10 #40559

 Transition Trainer

 New Smyrna Beach, FL

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:39 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

As I said before.... we think the coil problems originate because of heat.... the heat generated ONLY when you STOP the engine.... no different in cars.  If you're on a ramp, you can make sure you're pointing into the wind, but in a hangar, just set up a fan blowing into the intake.

Don



--- On Thu, 5/16/13, dmaib(at)me.com <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

From: dmaib(at)me.com <dmaib(at)me.com>

Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Thursday, May 16, 2013, 11:11 AM



--> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib(at)me.com (dmaib(at)me.com)>



[quote="jdriggs49(at)msn.com"]I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

 	  Quote: 	
		    From: [url=/mc/compose?to=ibspud(at)roadrunner.com]ibspud(at)roadrunner.com[/url]

  To: [url=/mc/compose?to=rv10-list(at)matronics.com]rv10-list(at)matronics.com[/url]

  Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

  Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

  

  

  

  800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition


	




I have about 650 hours and almost five years with no coil problems. In fact, no  problems at all. (I hope saying this doesn't jinx me!) I believe Klaus recommends that you replace spark plug wires about every three years or so to reduce stress on the coils. I also have read that keeping plugs gapped properly reduces stress on the coils. Since I am providing transition training, I have to do 100 hour condition inspections, so am replacing the plugs about every 8 or 9 months. The plugs are cheap, so I don't mind that at all. As previously mentioned, the connections on the coils are very important. I also have a plenum, and almost always open my oil door after shutting down to vent heat from the plenum. My main reason for doing this was to help start the hot engine, but perhaps it has helped my coils as well. After saying all of this, I am going to order a spare coil today to carry in the airplane. I am very happy with the Lightspeed EI.



--------

David Maib

RV-10 #40559

Transition Trainer

New Smyrna Beach,  FL





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400753#400753

http://www.matronics.com/cont================





	
 [quote][b]

_________________
Don A. McDonald
40636

jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

Tim,

I understand that you made an "emergency"  stop in Tennessee about a

two weeks ago. That was my black and white RV-10 in the hanger waiting on its engine.  Dan Riggs

Okay......one of his girls had to "pee right now!" 

I would have liked to met you but was in Utah watching my daughter run a triathalon. Leon said he took good care of you.



 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:31:38 -0500

 From: Tim(at)MyRV10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Electronic Ignition

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 

 I've never had a coil go bad.  I'm guessing most of those

 are probably heat related though, if you park hot and don't

 open the oil door and vent that heat.  Just a guess anyway.

 1.5 short of 950 hours on the system.  I had one of the

 pre-cooling-mod units, of much older (before the A's and B's)

 lineage, and I did have a problem with that box after

 many hundreds of hours.  The tach started reading

 wrong at times (I think that was a loose socketed IC),

 but I had a few instances of the unit not starting.  Once

 the engine was running it has never missed a beat, but

 I had a few days where I'd go out cold and it wouldn't

 run.  Klaus reworked that and found something in the

 power circuit that was intermittent. I don't remember

 if it was a solder joint or component.  At any rate, I did

 have those 2 problems with the box in the same timeframe.

 

 These days though it's back to purring like a kitten.

 

 I'm not sure what I'll do exactly, on the RV-14.

 I'll see what Van's offering will be, but if it doesn't

 have E.I., I will most likely go Lightspeed based on

 all the quantity of units there are that I've heard good

 things on.  I personally fly lots with Scott and Sean

 and other RV10's with Lightspeed and everyone has pretty

 much good luck.  It has the hottest spark you can

 fire, and I listened first hand one day as someone

 told Klaus that they don't think their wife would be

 alive without the system, as the spark had to fire

 through an oily cylinder as their engine came apart,

 and the lightspeed kept it running....that guy was

 totally sold on it.

 

 So I'd do it again with no problems. I do also

 have one other thing that I'm kind of doing with

 some critical components....I buy spares.  I know

 it's a lot to put on a shelf, but so many of our products

 these days are made by 1 person or 1 company.  With

 any single source component, especially something

 like an electronic ignition, I'd prefer to

 have an on-hand spare. If a company owner or key

 employee dies, it could be really handy.  Heck, even

 with my TruTrak, I'm finding that it may be nice to

 have a spare AP control head, because some of the newer

 software may break some functions.  But I haven't

 splurged on that yet.  I do have spare EFIS's though,

 or is that EFII in plural?

 

 Tim

 

 

 

 

 

 On 5/16/2013 11:11 AM, dmaib(at)me.com wrote:

 > --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib(at)me.com" <dmaib(at)me.com>

 >

 > [quote="jdriggs49(at)msn.com"]I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

 > Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

 >

 >

 >>   From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com

 >>   To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 >>   Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 >>   Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

 >>

 >>

 >>

 >>   800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition

 >

 >

 > I have about 650 hours and almost five years with no coil problems. In fact, no problems at all. (I hope saying this doesn't jinx me!) I believe Klaus recommends that you replace spark plug wires about every three years or so to reduce stress on the coils. I also have read that keeping plugs gapped properly reduces stress on the coils. Since I am providing transition training, I have to do 100 hour condition inspections, so am replacing the plugs about every 8 or 9 months. The plugs are cheap, so I don't mind that at all. As previously mentioned, the connections on the coils are very important. I also have a plenum, and almost always open my oil door after shutting down to vent heat from the plenum. My main reason for doing this was to help start the hot engine, but perhaps it has helped my coils as well. After saying all of this, I am going to order a spare coil today to carry in the airplane. I am very happy with the Lightspeed EI.

 >

 > --------

 > David Maib

 > RV-10 #40559

 > Transition Trainer

 > New Smyrna Beach, FL

 >

 >

 

 _-============================================================

 _-=          - The RV10-List Email Forum -

 _-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse

 _-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription,

 _-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,

 _-= Photoshare, and much much more:

 _-=

 _-=   --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List

 _-=

 _-============================================================

 _-=               - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -

 _-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums!

 _-=

 _-=   --> http://forums.matronics.com

 _-=

 _-============================================================

 _-=             - List Contribution Web Site -

 _-=  Thank you for your generous support!

 _-=                              -Matt Dralle, List Admin.

 _-=   --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution

 _-============================================================

Bajajim

Joined: 21 Aug 2012
Posts: 30

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

According to the statistics Electronic ignitions fail 16% of the time, 

(Twice as much as magnetos)

Magnetos fail 8% of the time…

If it’s not broken, why fix it?

Interesting, I don’t think they have got there yet…

N10KQ

91Hrs 

Bendix Magneto

Shower of Sparks

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:38 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 

I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

 	  Quote: 	
		   From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)>

 

 800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition.

 Only problem with the Lightspeed was a coil failure 200 hours ago. On second

 mag with several incidents. Love the Lightspeed. Good service on getting the

 coil and plugs as needed.

 Albert Gardner

 N9914RV

 Yum

 

 

 


	


 	  Quote: 	
		    http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   	
7

  [quote][b]

robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

I prefer the mixed set up of one EI and one mag. I love the set up on my 8A with one Pmag. I won't run dual anything but Mags however I prefer the better burn of EI and with a single EI you get almost all the benefit of having dual EI but still have a good old Mag to rely upon.

I would consider two different EI but not two of the same EIs.

I wish the 6 cylinder pmag were available (and fully tested)



Robin



JimVillani <Jim(at)JimVillani.com> wrote:

According to the statistics Electronic ignitions fail 16% of the time,

(Twice as much as magnetos)

Magnetos fail 8% of the time…

If it’s not broken, why fix it?

Interesting, I don’t think they have got there yet…

N10KQ

91Hrs

Bendix Magneto

Shower of Sparks

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:38 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition



I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?

[quote] From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com<mailto:ibspud(at)roadrunner.com>

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700



 



 800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition

cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: Electronic Ignition

FWIW, this is one of the reasons I went with the split decision, one electronic ignition and one magneto.  I've read consistently that 95% of the gain in performance is made with the first electronic ignition making the second one of little value regarding performance increases.  With a magneto on board I also don't need the backup battery system.  A lot of folks have done a great job with those and are quite pleased, I just didn't want the hassle when a magneto which nicely provides a reliable back in case of an electric failure (which I have had).  Having said that, I sure love only spending $1.50 on spark plugs for the Lightspeed!



Marcus



On May 16, 2013, at 1:05 PM, JimVillani <Jim(at)jimvillani.com (Jim(at)jimvillani.com)> wrote:

According to the statistics Electronic ignitions fail 16% of the time,

(Twice as much as magnetos)

Magnetos fail 8% of the time…

If it’s not broken, why fix it?

Interesting, I don’t think they have got there yet…

N10KQ

91Hrs

Bendix Magneto

Shower of Sparks

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:38 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 



I've been reading this thread with great interest as I want to put electronic ignition on my -10.

Sure seems like that there are a LOT of coil failures. Guys are saying that they really like the systems after they have to replace at least one coil. This the case?> From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)

 	  Quote: 	
		   To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: RE: Re: Electronic Ignition

 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:40:29 -0700

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)>

 

 800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition.

 Only problem with the Lightspeed was a coil failure 200 hours ago. On second

 mag with several incidents. Love the Lightspeed. Good service on getting the

 coil and plugs as needed.

 Albert Gardner

 N9914RV

 Yum

 

 




	




 	  Quote: 	
		    http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   	
7

 	  Quote: 	
		   	
8



 [quote][b]

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> RV10-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4 Next
Page 1 of 4

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum