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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:04 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

Guys

 

The front seats fresh air vents which came in this kit are like this

 

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with the female part where the eye-ball valve will be mounted.

But if I leave it like it is, this female part positon is not paralel with the instrument panel surface.

Is this the way you installed it? 

Or did you cut that part and installed it flush with the panel surface?

 

Regards

Carlos

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rleffler

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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:24 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

Most folks will install an eyeball vent, such as those that Stein sells.  Then run a short piece of scat between the naca vent to the eyeball vent.



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On May 11, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:

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Guys

 

The front seats fresh air vents which came in this kit are like this

 

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with the female part where the eye-ball valve will be mounted.

But if I leave it like it is, this female part positon is not paralel with the instrument panel surface.

Is this the way you installed it? 

Or did you cut that part and installed it flush with the panel surface?

 

Regards

Carlos  

 



	
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Bob Leffler
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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents

I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well that way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit when mounted at the prescribed angle. Now, if you are going to have a custom glass or carbon fiber panel with the vent actually mounted in the panel, then you would want to modify as Bob suggests. I bought the upgraded aluminum eyeball vents from Van's. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&browse=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. These are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh air than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain, either.

I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

I agree with Dave.  I also just used the stock black nylon vents as I

figured I'd rather spend the extra $300 on avgas.  They work well.  One day

I'll probably breakdown and spring for the nice aluminum ones from Van's.



Carl



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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:50 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

Carlos,



Mine are not supported below the panel and they are rock solid. I believe we used proseal to mount the vent scoop to the fuselage wall, but it has been so long now that I cannot say that for sure. Sorry about the photo. I did not attach it properly, but if you log on to the Matronics site you can see it on my post.



David Maib



On May 11, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:






David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Joined: 25 Aug 2009
Posts: 364

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents

I used the large eyeball vents from Stein attached directly to NACA vent using proseal for both like David. Stock panel. Works great.

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Wayne G.

davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair vents mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.



David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI

From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM

Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents



--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>



David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
Guest

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

David Clifford

 

Thanks for your answer as well..

 

Do you have a picture?

 

CarlosÂ  

 



 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net

Sent: sÃ¡bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 22:50

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents

 

I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair vents mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.

David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI





From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Fresh Air Vents



--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>



David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
Guest

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

The pictures were attachments on my first reply to your post.



David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI

From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:06:10 PM

Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents



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David Clifford

 

Thanks for your answer as well..

 

Do you have a picture?

 

Carlos  

 



 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net

Sent: sÃ¡bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 22:50

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents

 

I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair vents mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.

David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI





From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Fresh Air Vents



--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>



David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
Guest

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:54 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

For some reason, your first reply came out blank, even when going online to the Matronics site.

Will you please repeat your first post?

 

Thanks

CarlosÂ  

 



 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net

Sent: domingo, 12 de Maio de 2013 02:39

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents

 

The pictures were attachments on my first reply to your post.

David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI





From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:06:10 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Fresh Air Vents



David Clifford

 

Thanks for your answer as well..

 

Do you have a picture?

 

Carlos  

 



 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net (davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net)

Sent: sÃ¡bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 22:50

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents

 

I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair vents mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.

David Clifford



RV-10 Builder

Howell,  MI

From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Fresh Air Vents



--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>



David



Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of

your post.



By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support

it below the panel, did you make a bracket? 



Carlos  

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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

Carlos, I did something a bit different.



I can see from David Maib's photo that he has a Stein panel blank as 

well as Steins eyeball vent.  I used the same panel blank and vent but 

instead of mounting it below the panel, I put the vent on the panel and 

ran a piece of SCAT (I actually used CEET for the color and so that the 

wire is covered, won't rust and it has less internal friction to air 

flow).  Take a look here:

http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=66090&row=6



It turns out that you can do a minimum radius 360 turn with the SCAT 

quite nicely.  I just added a pic showing it finished:

http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=170694&row=1



The SCAT (or CEET) is slightly visible underneath the panel but is 

completely non-obtrusive.  I think the vent looks best mounted in the 

panel.  Makes a nice water trap if that's a problem (I guess it isn't 

because I've never heard anyone complain about it)



Bill "having just been reminded that it's bird nesting season... do they 

always build on cylinders 1-3-5" Watson

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents

I used the Stein vents mounted in a hole in a piece of scrap aluminum, which in turn was mounted directly to the Van's duct with some screws/nuts.



I did put a piece of nylon screen in there to keep out bugs.



I mounted the Van's duct late in the game, and as I had no easy way to clamp it, I used a couple of flush pull rivets (fore and aft) to hold it while the pro-seal set. I left the rivets in.



Works fine, air can be directed anywhere, lots of it once you're moving.

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RV-10 QB

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents

 	  Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote: 	
		  Carlos, I did something a bit different.



I can see from David Maib's photo that he has a Stein panel blank as 

well as Steins eyeball vent.  I used the same panel blank and vent but 

instead of mounting it below the panel, I put the vent on the panel and 

ran a piece of SCAT (I actually used CEET for the color and so that the 

wire is covered, won't rust and it has less internal friction to air 

flow).  Take a look here:

http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=66090&row=6



It turns out that you can do a minimum radius 360 turn with the SCAT 

quite nicely.  I just added a pic showing it finished:

http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=170694&row=1



The SCAT (or CEET) is slightly visible underneath the panel but is 

completely non-obtrusive.  I think the vent looks best mounted in the 

panel.  Makes a nice water trap if that's a problem (I guess it isn't 

because I've never heard anyone complain about it)



Bill "having just been reminded that it's bird nesting season... do they 

always build on cylinders 1-3-5" Watson 	




That is a really nice looking air vent installation, Bill. Maybe on my next airplane.................

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:10 am Post subject: Fresh Air Vents

Thanks David.



There are a few things I'd do on my next plane too... but I've told 

everyone I know that I only have one in me.  It's been the best project 

ever, but I'm thinking it best not to return to the scene of the crime.



On 5/15/2013 8:07 PM, dmaib(at)me.com wrote:

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 Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:

> Carlos, I did something a bit different.

>

> I can see from David Maib's photo that he has a Stein panel blank as

> well as Steins eyeball vent.  I used the same panel blank and vent but

> instead of mounting it below the panel, I put the vent on the panel and

> ran a piece of SCAT (I actually used CEET for the color and so that the

> wire is covered, won't rust and it has less internal friction to air

> flow).  Take a look here:

> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=66090&row=6

>

> It turns out that you can do a minimum radius 360 turn with the SCAT

> quite nicely.  I just added a pic showing it finished:

> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=170694&row=1

>

> The SCAT (or CEET) is slightly visible underneath the panel but is

> completely non-obtrusive.  I think the vent looks best mounted in the

> panel.  Makes a nice water trap if that's a problem (I guess it isn't

> because I've never heard anyone complain about it)

>

> Bill "having just been reminded that it's bird nesting season... do they

> always build on cylinders 1-3-5" Watson



 That is a really nice looking air vent installation, Bill. Maybe on my next airplane.................



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 RV-10 #40559

 Transition Trainer

 New Smyrna Beach, FL





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