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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

I fly an RV-4 and observed an interesting issue regarding Bose headsets. I
have used David Clark's ENC headsets for 3 years. No complaints whatsoever.
I have used Bose headsets in many other aircraft and there are amazing. I
had saved up to buy a set of Bose headsets for my RV-4 but I then borrowed a
set and tried them out in my airplane. I was actually surprised to find
that they were no better than by David Clark ENC units. I attribute this to
the proximity of the canopy in the RV-4. Much of the noise is higher
frequency wind noise and although the Bose does a great job of reducing
noise, I don't think it is any better than the DC when it comes to high
frequency wind noise. So I saved myself $2000 and stayed with my DC units.
For side-by-side RVs, I think the Bose would be superior but at least in the
RV-4 with the canopy just inches from your head, I'll stay with the DC's

Just my opinion.

Doug Weiler
RV-4, 300 hrs
On 6/19/06 9:55 AM, "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2(at)earthlink.net> wrote:

[quote]

A cheap used set of David Clarks and install your own anr kit. Works for me
at less than half the price.

Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
295 hours
Chicago/Louisville


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

If I was buying new headsets I'd take a long look at the Bose Quiet Comfort
2 modification. My son, an airline pilot, turned me on to the setup.
Evidently a lot of airline types are buying the headsets, my son bought one.
The Bose Quiet Comfort 2 is the headset folks wear as passengers on airlines
to ANR out the noise and play music. This company, web site below, has
added a modification to transmit. It just plugs in and is a very neat mod.
Bose is not happy but until they sue him out of business it is a great
headset. Very well made. I have nothing to do with either company, just
thought it was cool deal.
http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html
third write up down

http://www.uflymike.com/
Rich Crosley
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

I let the conversation go for a couple of days, but nobody has posted a
link to it so i'll toot my own horn here and post a link to my article on
noise-cancelling headsets:

http://www.vansairforce.org/misc/headsets/

It's from May 2002, so it's a little dated given the new technology that's
available. But I know many people still flying with the headset we
recommended after the test, and they're still happy with it.

Unfortunately we couldn't get a BOSE to test alongside the other headsets.
We emailed and called, but BOSE never once replied to our requests for a
loaner (not even to say "no").

-Rob


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

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If I was buying new headsets I'd take a long look at the Bose Quiet Comfort
2 modification. My son, an airline pilot, turned me on to the setup.
Evidently a lot of airline types are buying the headsets, my son bought one.
The Bose Quiet Comfort 2 is the headset folks wear as passengers on airlines
to ANR out the noise and play music. This company, web site below, has
added a modification to transmit. It just plugs in and is a very neat mod.
Bose is not happy but until they sue him out of business it is a great
headset. Very well made. I have nothing to do with either company, just
thought it was cool deal.


http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html
third write up down

http://www.uflymike.com/

Gotta love it! That looks like a really clever solution.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge across the top of the head is very thin. I find that an RV-6A has little headroom if you try to sit as high as I want to (which is high).

Does any one who is using the Peltors care to express an opinion on these?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

I have used Peltors for a few years. Originally to get better head-canopy
clearance in my RV4. I also find them more comfortable than the DC style
head bands - less head squeeze. However due to the lower earcup pressure,
the ear seals let a little more noise leak through. It has not been enough
to bother me. The Oregon Aero Softseals are a worthwhile improvement. I
installed the Headsets Inc ANR conversion in one of my older Peltors and
found it worth the cost/effort. I sometimes fly in a friend's M20R Mooney
with Bose ANR headsets. I observe better sound quality and ANR
effectiveness with the Bose, but not enough to me to be worth triple the
cost. Headsets are a very personal preference item. Arrange to try them in
the environment in which you will be using them before committing, or get a
no questions asked return commitment.

Eric Whiteside, RV6

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

On 11:29:39 2006-06-20 sarg314(at)comcast.net wrote:
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Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models
which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge
across the top of the head is very thin.

For what it's worth, the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country (now called the
QFRXCc) also has a very thin headband, and it was the winner in the review
I posted earlier today.

-Rob


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

Another advantage I see for the QFRXC for single seat or tandem airplanes is
that it is reversible so the mike and cord can be on either the left or
right side so you can keep everything on the right side assuming you enter
the airplane from the left. Side by side pilots might like to have one on
the left, the other on the right too.

Terry


On 11:29:39 2006-06-20 sarg314(at)comcast.net wrote:
Quote:
Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models
which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge
across the top of the head is very thin.

For what it's worth, the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country (now called the
QFRXCc) also has a very thin headband, and it was the winner in the review
I posted earlier today.

-Rob


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

Guys: I had not heard anything but good reports until recently about Bose,
except the price of course. Here is one that a friend of mine related about
his experience with Bose customer service. He managed to get his RV-9A nose
wheel to depart the fix on landing and down it went, hung vertical on it's
nose for a few seconds, then fell over on it's back. My buddy was not hurt
except for a cut on his scalp caused by the headset headband that broke and
caused the injury. The only thing wrong with the Bose was a broken
headband. He asked Bose to repair it and they refused, he asked for the
parts to repair it himself again they refused. Bose's best offer was to
sell him a new headset at wholesale. He likes the product but now has
reservations about recommending them to friends because of customer service.
Just one man's story about an otherwise good product with indifferent
customer service. Dan


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Good active noise canceling headset Reply with quote

For you airline pilot types, this Bose mod below is NOT usable
for the airline use at least legally. All headsets must be TSO'ed for
airline use. It's usually noted in the airlines OP SPECS.

For General Aviation GO getem a friend did this with his own mod years
ago for his wife's headset. Works great

>>http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html
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>third write up down
>>http://www.uflymike.com/



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