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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Just got my AOPA mag. It has a fly-off between Rich Romaine's 285HP CJ and a T-34 with an IO-550. Of course the CJ lost the "fly-off" and was trashed by the author for it's looks and systems. The guy incorrectly stated that the front seat didn't adjust as well. Too bad they didn't fly a little 1-V-1, but that's not the kind of flying AOPA writers do.

BTW, Yak-52's were dumped into the same trash bin as the CJ-6. That should piss off somebody.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: AOPA article Reply with quote

I don't remember a CJ ever being grounded for a wing center section failure. I guess Beech (or whatever they are now called) needs all the help they can get.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Good.� The T-34 can continue to act as a "Shell No-Pest Strip" for people not bright enough to buy a CJ or Yak.� Smile

"Why yes, yes indeed, 'real' pilots fly the T-34!� Why don't you join them over there and help them iron their scarves?"� Nothing to see here.� Move along.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:36:06 -0400
From: cpayne(at)joimail.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: AOPA Article

--> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com>

Just got my AOPA mag. It has a fly-off between Rich Romaine's 285HP CJ and a T-34 with an IO-550. Of course the CJ lost the "fly-off" and was trashed by the author for it's looks and systems. The guy incorrectly stated that the front seat didn't adjust as well. Too bad they didn't fly a little 1-V-1, but that's not the kind of flying AOPA writers do.

BTW, Yak-52's were dumped into the same trash bin as the CJ-6. That should piss off somebody.

Craig Payne



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Well stated…and I love the “nothing to see here…Move along”…least we forget the common attraction to bright shiny things…mine is not bright and the shiny is only if I don’t wipe her down after a hop.



From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Boede
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:27 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: AOPA Article


Good. The T-34 can continue to act as a "Shell No-Pest Strip" for people not bright enough to buy a CJ or Yak. Smile

"Why yes, yes indeed, 'real' pilots fly the T-34! Why don't you join them over there and help them iron their scarves?" Nothing to see here. Move along.
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> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: AOPA Article
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> Just got my AOPA mag. It has a fly-off between Rich Romaine's 285HP CJ and a T-34 with an IO-550. Of course the CJ lost the "fly-off" and was trashed by the author for it's looks and systems. The guy incorrectly stated that the front seat didn't adjust as well. Too bad they didn't fly a little 1-V-1, but that's not the kind of flying AOPA writers do.
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> BTW, Yak-52's were dumped into the same trash bin as the CJ-6. That should piss off somebody.
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> Craig Payne

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Ok, Let's take a stock T 34 with it it's 225 horse engine versa a stock CJ6A with it's 285 hp engine. I'll take on a 300 horse T-34 with my 14 P powered CJ any day of the week and I wonder why they chose 10,000 feet for the comparison I much rather have had 6000

Scott Andrews602-705-4413
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Well stated…and I love the “nothing to see here…Move along”…least we forget the common attraction to bright shiny things…mine is not bright and the shiny is only if I don’t wipe her down after a hop.



From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jon Boede
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Good. The T-34 can continue to act as a "Shell No-Pest Strip" for people not bright enough to buy a CJ or Yak. Smile

"Why yes, yes indeed, 'real' pilots fly the T-34! Why don't you join them over there and help them iron their scarves?" Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:36:06 -0400
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> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> Subject: AOPA Article
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)>
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> Just got my AOPA mag. It has a fly-off between Rich Romaine's 285HP CJ and a T-34 with an IO-550. Of course the CJ lost the "fly-off" and was trashed by the author for it's looks and systems. The guy incorrectly stated that the front seat didn't adjust as well. Too bad they didn't fly a little 1-V-1, but that's not the kind of flying AOPA writers do.
>
> BTW, Yak-52's were dumped into the same trash bin as the CJ-6. That should piss off somebody.
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> Craig Payne

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Have not read the article yet. Would love to see the 5 G T-34 hang with me doing a little BFM with the 52. Put the 50 in the ring and I'll take it in less than one turn. I'll be glad to play with them at 10,000 ft too.
Doc

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On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Scott <onthegosa(at)aol.com (onthegosa(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote]Ok, Let's take a stock T 34 with it it's 225 horse engine versa a stock CJ6A with it's 285 hp engine. I'll take on a 300 horse T-34 with my 14 P powered CJ any day of the week and I wonder why they chose 10,000 feet for the comparison I much rather have had 6000

Scott Andrews602-705-4413
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On Jun 21, 2013, at 4:46 PM, "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <firedog(at)visi.com (firedog(at)visi.com)> wrote:
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Well stated…and I love the “nothing to see here…Move along”…least we forget the common attraction to bright shiny things…mine is not bright and the shiny is only if I don’t wipe her down after a hop.



From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jon Boede
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:27 PM
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Good. The T-34 can continue to act as a "Shell No-Pest Strip" for people not bright enough to buy a CJ or Yak. Smile

"Why yes, yes indeed, 'real' pilots fly the T-34! Why don't you join them over there and help them iron their scarves?" Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:36:06 -0400
> From: cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)

> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne(at)joimail.com (cpayne(at)joimail.com)>
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> Just got my AOPA mag. It has a fly-off between Rich Romaine's 285HP CJ and a T-34 with an IO-550. Of course the CJ lost the "fly-off" and was trashed by the author for it's looks and systems. The guy incorrectly stated that the front seat didn't adjust as well. Too bad they didn't fly a little 1-V-1, but that's not the kind of flying AOPA writers do.
>
> BTW, Yak-52's were dumped into the same trash bin as the CJ-6. That should piss off somebody.
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> Craig Payne

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: AOPA Article Reply with quote

First of all, I didn't get the impression that the CJ was "trashed" in the article. True, an M-14 powered CJ with a 3 bladed prop would crush a t-34, also true 10K was not a good altitude for performance tests.

Last, Come on Doc!....a Yak 50 vs a T-34 with two guys who have actual ACM training is like fighting an F-4 with a an F-22 Wink

Bottom line, if you are enjoying your ride, who cares what some Putz at AOPA writes?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: AOPA Article Reply with quote

Roger that! Pin heads are pin heads.
Doc

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First of all, I didn't get the impression that the CJ was "trashed" in the article. True, an M-14 powered CJ with a 3 bladed prop would crush a t-34, also true 10K was not a good altitude for performance tests.

Last, Come on Doc!....a Yak 50 vs a T-34 with two guys who have actual ACM training is like fighting an F-4 with a an F-22 [Wink]

Bottom line, if you are enjoying your ride, who cares what some Putz at AOPA writes?

~Wiz

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