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 Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:45 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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Speaking of legacy technologies, I see this item
in the Wichita Eagle that Beech's future seems
a bit brighter today.
http://tinyurl.com/mbryz3m
They recently divested themselves of jet products to
concentrate on legacy core competencies. A bold
move . . . but on a firm technological foundation.
Now, if the people who are expected to ride on those
airplanes have the means and reason to do so . . .
I spent most of my time at Beech on targets and
jets. My contractor's badge hasn't expired yet . . .
I might have an opportunity now to get more
up-close and personal with the machines that built
the Beech success story.
Bob . . .
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rd2(at)dejazzd.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:01 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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Bob, thanks for sharing this with the list.
Time has taught one to b a realist rather than optimist; hope and wish this Wheels Up venture goes well (without Chinese backing; not that I know of any in this case).
Thumbs up to Beech! Especially considering that you may be part of this.
Rumen
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Speaking of legacy technologies, I see this item
in the Wichita Eagle that Beech's future seems
a bit brighter today.
http://tinyurl.com/mbryz3m
They recently divested themselves of jet products to
concentrate on legacy core competencies. A bold
move . . . but on a firm technological foundation.
Now, if the people who are expected to ride on those
airplanes have the means and reason to do so . . .
I spent most of my time at Beech on targets and
jets. My contractor's badge hasn't expired yet . . .
I might have an opportunity now to get more
up-close and personal with the machines that built
the Beech success story.
Bob . . .
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| Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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Bob -
I imagine a deserved sense of satisfaction on your part - Seeing some promise in this company in which you invested a fair amount of time.
Bill
SF bay area
AEC Seminar, Livermore (at)1998?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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Speaking of legacy technologies, I see this item
in the Wichita Eagle that Beech's future seems
a bit brighter today.
http://tinyurl.com/mbryz3m
They recently divested themselves of jet products to
concentrate on legacy core competencies. A bold
move . . . but on a firm technological foundation.
Now, if the people who are expected to ride on those
airplanes have the means and reason to do so . . .
I spent most of my time at Beech on targets and
jets. My contractor's badge hasn't expired yet . . .
I might have an opportunity now to get more
up-close and personal with the machines that built
the Beech success story.
 Bob . . .
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| Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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At 01:21 PM 8/1/2013, you wrote:
| Quote: | Bob -
I imagine a deserved sense of satisfaction on your part - Seeing
some promise in this company in which you invested a fair amount of time. |
Yeah, it's sorta like watching some of the
things your kids do after they leave home
and wondering where you went wrong! But
core values, no matter how obscured,
can emerge under the right conditions.
There were times when I would have thought
my children's present achievements were
completely out of reach . . . but after
20 years, mom and I couldn't be more pleased.
Perhaps there's a spark of resurrection
left from this company's legacies.
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Just discovered that there was a Model 16 built
out in the Liberal facility. It post dates
the Model 17 by many years. Only one ever
built . . . Olive Ann didn't like it and nixed
the program.
I'll have to see if any pictures of it
still exist. Being a one-of experimental,
it seems unlikely.
Bob . . .
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:08 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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Good Morning Bob,
I do believe the Model 16 was from the Travel Air days and was the last product before Curtiss Wright elected to shut down the Travel Air Division.
Walter had inspired Ted Wells to come up with a high speed biplane using the latest NACA data, and that was to be the Travel Air Model 17. When Curtiss Wright made the decision to dump Travel Air, they offered Walter a job as a Vice President of Curtiss Wright. He declined and asked to be able to take Ted Wells and his design back to Wichita to build under his own name. That became his severance package!
All of the above is well documented in the Book Staggerwing available in Tullahoma, Tennessee, from the Beechcraft Heritage Museum folks.
The Travel Air Model 16 was a very nice open cockpit sport biplane.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 8/1/2013 5:00:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com writes:
| Quote: | At 01:21 PM 8/1/2013, you wrote:
| Quote: | Bob -
I imagine a deserved sense of satisfaction on your part - Seeing
some promise in this company in which you invested a fair amount of time. |
Yeah, it's sorta like watching some of the
things your kids do after they leave home
and wondering where you went wrong! But
core values, no matter how obscured,
can emerge under the right conditions.
There were times when I would have thought
my children's present achievements were
completely out of reach . . . but after
20 years, mom and I couldn't be more pleased.
Perhaps there's a spark of resurrection
left from this company's legacies.
[img]data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBhQSERUUExIWFRUVFBUVFxUYFxgXFhYVFhQVFBQUFxQXGyYeFxwjGRUVHy8gIycpLCwsFR4xNTAqNSYrLCkBCQoKDgwOGg8PGiwkHCQsLCwsLCwsLywsLCwpLCwsLCwsKSwpKSwsLCwsLCwsLCwsKSksLCwtKSwsLCwsKSwsKf/AABEIAGgBMwMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAABBQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFAAECAwQGB//EAEQQAAEDAQUFAwkFBQcFAAAAAAEAAhEDBBIhMUEFUWFxkQaBoRMUIkJSscHR8BUyYpLhI1OCotIzQ0RjcsLxBxYkk7L/xAAaAQACAwEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAwEEBQAG/8QANxEAAQMCAwYDBQYHAAAAAAAAAQACAwQREiExBRMUQVGRFWGhIkJScYEysdHh8PEGI0NTYqLB/9oADAMBAAIR[/img]
Just discovered that there was a Model 16 built
out in the Liberal facility. It post dates
the Model 17 by many years. Only one ever
built . . . Olive Ann didn't like it and nixed
the program.
I'll have to see if any pictures of it
still exist. Being a one-of experimental,
it seems unlikely.
Bob . . . |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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At 10:07 AM 8/7/2013, you wrote:
| Quote: | Good Morning Bob,
I do believe the Model 16 was from the Travel Air days and was the last product before Curtiss Wright elected to shut down the Travel Air Division.
Walter had inspired Ted Wells to come up with a high speed biplane using the latest NACA data, and that was to be the Travel Air Model 17. When Curtiss Wright made the decision to dump Travel Air, they offered Walter a job as a Vice President of Curtiss Wright. He declined and asked to be able to take Ted Wells and his design back to Wichita to build under his own name. That became his severance package!
All of the above is well documented in the Book Staggerwing available in Tullahoma, Tennessee, from the Beechcraft Heritage Museum folks.
The Travel Air Model 16 was a very nice open cockpit sport biplane. |
Hmmmm . . . seems some overlap of information
http://tinyurl.com/mn8huw4
I think some of the Liberal crew from the 1970s
are still around, I'll see if anyone can enlighten
me. Liberal was the site of several production
lines and several skink works kinds of effort.
Our targets guys droned a Musketeer at
Liberal for some military proposal.
Bob . . . [quote][b]
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:57 am Post subject: . . . up from the ashes. |
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Good Afternoon 'Lectric Bob,
Sure could have been a later use of the Model 16 moniker. Beech Aircraft Corporation did play around with model numbers. No doubt there were some shenanigans out at Liberal in those days. We always wandered around as much as we could when picking up Musketeers. I know there were places we were not allowed to enter. Rumor at that time was that they were messing with an idea to build a high speed Mousketeer to supplant the Bonanza line. Did not perform worth a darn so we heard!
There were ten to fifteen of the original Travel Air Model 16s built with various engines. Mostly Kinners.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
In a message dated 8/7/2013 12:27:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com writes:
| Quote: | At 10:07 AM 8/7/2013, you wrote:
| Quote: | Good Morning Bob,
I do believe the Model 16 was from the Travel Air days and was the last product before Curtiss Wright elected to shut down the Travel Air Division.
Walter had inspired Ted Wells to come up with a high speed biplane using the latest NACA data, and that was to be the Travel Air Model 17. When Curtiss Wright made the decision to dump Travel Air, they offered Walter a job as a Vice President of Curtiss Wright. He declined and asked to be able to take Ted Wells and his design back to Wichita to build under his own name. That became his severance package!
All of the above is well documented in the Book Staggerwing available in Tullahoma, Tennessee, from the Beechcraft Heritage Museum folks.
The Travel Air Model 16 was a very nice open cockpit sport biplane. |
Hmmmm . . . seems some overlap of information
http://tinyurl.com/mn8huw4
I think some of the Liberal crew from the 1970s
are still around, I'll see if anyone can enlighten
me. Liberal was the site of several production
lines and several skink works kinds of effort.
Our targets guys droned a Musketeer at
Liberal for some military proposal.
Bob . . . |
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