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f.kyle(at)sympatico.ca
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 Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:40 pm Post subject: Trouble on the line |
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Cheers,
I wrote a few weeks ago regarding having jammed a tapered pintle into the port wing pip-pin assembly - and eventually fabricating a hacksaw blade on an 18inch handle with which to cut bits off till it pushed through and fell onto the belly floor.
I promised a description when success crowned our work but better sense suggested “forget it”. It’s out.
However another dogged challenge has dragged into days when the weather is perfect and we just can’t get it going......
Port wing slid into place most obediently, but when we attempted to install the starboard pinion, the front and rear lift pins wandered into place but the flap pin just would not enter its drive by more than1/4 inch (6mm). There it jammed, and trying to jolly it in actually drove the flap outboard where it interfered with the aileron inner face. I cleaned up the electrical lines in case they interfered but success - came there none.
We checked the drive to be clear, and it accepted an accurate one-half-inch tube happily, but balked repeatedly at the flap pin. There was discussion of a ’bent pin’, or at least one at an unacceptable angle.
This was followed by advice to detach the flap, introduce it to the drive and then follow with the wing itself - and re-attach the flap. That might work but would be a nag each time.
If you have encountered this, please tell me the answer. The hangar vigilantes (s0me) claim the flap pin is either bent or is crooked, but it wasn’t a problem earlier.
Because of the fine tolerances involved, I thought to change the pin end silhouette from semi-spherical to bullet-shaped - with the hope it would slide into place more easily - BUT am afraid to work the surface of the pin without consulting the odd oracle (in caser it’s plated or something).
What say you? All suggestions treated with care and respect.
Ferg,
mono 914 CS prop
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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: Trouble on the line |
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G'day Ferg,
This very problem was addressed recently on this list so assuming Neville Eyre's comment is not Copyright, I have reproduced below what he had to say.
The ''eyeball'' ball socket is held captive by a ring [ collar ], if the ring has moved outboard, it will allow the eyeball to swivel too far, that is why the pin will jam in the hole.
Find a steel tube that just clears the eyeball, but is smaller than the socket housing.
Align the eyeball hole parallel to the flap tube.
Get someone to hold a piece of wood against their leg and bear against the port side of the flap tube, place the steel tube onto the collar and strike the tube with a hammer.
When the ring is engaged deeper, the eyeball will only swivel a very small amount.
You must of course use a special Aircraft Hammer, I have these for sale at only £120 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See if this helps you with your problem.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz.
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rparigoris
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Trouble on the line |
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Hi Ferg
I'm in the process of setting up my flaps.
One thing I am not a big fan of was allowing my flaps to be pushed outboard where they could contact my ailerons.
I was able to trim and shim things so the outboard closeout of the flap contacts the wing joggle if you push the flaps outboard about 1/8". You could push quite hard outboard and still be able to move the flap. Even pushed outboard and hitting the wing joggle, the aileron clears the flap.
Good luck with your jamming pin in the flap, sounds like Nev has the best possibility solution.
Ron P
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Trevpond(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: Trouble on the line |
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Roland,
Why have you made this attack on Nevilles anticipated income?!! Nev bought a job lot of these hammers.
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Trev Pond
G-LINN
In a message dated 08/08/2013 21:32:24 GMT Daylight Time, schmidtroland(at)web.de writes:
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Hi Ferg,
the suggestion Nev made concerning the flap pin engagement worked on my Europa, so rigging is no longer a pain.
BTW: You won't need an aircraft hammer for 120 Pounds to do the job 
Good luck!
Roland
PH-ZTI
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: Trouble on the line |
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Bet the govmint sold them to him!;-0
Graham
From: "Trevpond(at)aol.com" <Trevpond(at)aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013, 22:16
Subject: Re: Re: Trouble on the line
Roland,
Why have you made this attack on Nevilles anticipated income?!! Nev bought a job lot of these hammers.
regards
Trev Pond
G-LINN
In a message dated 08/08/2013 21:32:24 GMT Daylight Time, schmidtroland(at)web.de writes:
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Hi Ferg,
the suggestion Nev made concerning the flap pin engagement worked on my Europa, so rigging is no longer a pain.
BTW: You won't need an aircraft hammer for 120 Pounds to do the job
Good luck!
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:43 pm Post subject: Trouble on the line |
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I think it might be more likely Nev has the Govnint in his sights for sales G.
I'll bet they have never had the opportunity to buy anything so cheaply before!
K
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