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civengpe
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I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete. 
Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here.
Shannon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: HS-910 |
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Shannon, feel free to give me a call. Â I think I can talk you through it. Â A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
Dave Saylor
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123(at)gmail.com (civeng123(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete.Â
Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.Â
This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.Â
Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here.
Shannon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:21 pm Post subject: HS-910 |
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I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips you shared with me four or five years ago. It just seems like yesterday when I took the class at your shop. Time sure flies when you're having fun.
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On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Shannon, feel free to give me a call. I think I can talk you through it. A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
Dave Saylor
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123(at)gmail.com (civeng123(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete. [img]cid:[/img]
Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here.
Shannon
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civengpe
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: HS-910 |
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I just got off of the phone with Dave and have a much better idea on how to proceed. It is amazing how something so small can derail a project.
Thanks for the help! On Aug 28, 2013 6:27 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:[quote] I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips you shared with me four or five years ago. It just seems like yesterday when I took the class at your shop. Time sure flies when you're having fun.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Shannon, feel free to give me a call. I think I can talk you through it. A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
Dave Saylor
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123(at)gmail.com (civeng123(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete.
Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here.
Shannon
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Gordon Anderson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: HS-910 |
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Hi Shannon,
I'm sure by now you have all the tips and tricks required. To give you more trouble deciding, here's how I did it.
Lay up a fibreglass sheet using 2 or 3 layers of thin (circa 200gsm) glass cloth on a flat surface, with release agent on one side and peel ply on the other, weight it down and let it cure. Take the HS / rudder fairing and cut out the sheet so it is about 1/2" oversize all round. Tape the sheet to the fairing with the rough surface (peel ply removed) on the inside of the fairing. Bond it using additional glass cloth and glass tape around the edges.
The glass sheet obviously has to be flexible enough to adapt to the curved rear edges of the fairing. After laying up the cured sheet to the fairings, I clecoed the fairings to the HS with the elevator installed and wedged a sheet of 1/8" to 3/16" thick foam between the elevator horn and the sheet to hold it in place while the bond cured. That way the gap was guaranteed and they even took a nice slightly concave shape conforming to the elevator horns.
Afterwards trim and sand around the outside.
Have fun!
Gordon
41015 Switzerland
On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:45 AM, Shannon Hicks wrote:
[quote]I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete.
Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here.
Shannon
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