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After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks..
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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I blew the sides out on one pant from switching to retreads and not widening the gap. Make sure you have clearance.
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On Sep 5, 2013, at 16:07, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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The ones you get from Desser are NOT monster retreads. They are listed as High Performance Retreads. The "Monster" ones don't come in our size. Yes, there may be a little more tread and clearance needed with any change in tire, but ours aren't Monster.
Tim
On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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I just switched back to Aero Classics from Desser retreads. Â I got about 200 landings out of the retreads. Â The thing I really didn't like was that the plane was VERY hard to pull around with the towbar using the retreads. Â The aeroclassics are much easier, and FWIW they weigh at least 4 lbs less per tire.
Dave Saylor
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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Â Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Â Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? Â If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Â Thanks...
-Rob
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Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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Tim is correct, no monster retreads in our main gear size.
I just replaced both mains two weeks ago with Desser retreads. I only had 120 hours on the original Aero Classics but I found one tire ruined from a dragging brake (and that brake pad worn down to the rivets). I replaced both tires just because. The only thing I could find on the brake problem was perhaps a rolled brake caliper 'O' ring. The right side was fine and that brake pad looked brand new.
No problem with clearance on the retreads. The cores are Goodyear and the quality looked good.
Carl
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
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Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
The ones you get from Desser are NOT monster retreads. They are listed as High Performance Retreads. The "Monster" ones don't come in our size. Yes, there may be a little more tread and clearance needed with any change in tire, but ours aren't Monster.
Tim
On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:10 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time, and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the replacements will last twice as long.  I use standard Desser retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem.
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| Quote: | After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:41 am Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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Thanks, guys... I may just stay with what I have for simplicity reasons and based on the other feedback.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time, and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the replacements will last twice as long. I use standard Desser retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:19 am Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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I have heard good feedback on the Goodyear tires as well. Maybe more expensive but yet another option over the aero classics.
From: Rob Kochman (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
Thanks, guys... I may just stay with what I have for simplicity reasons and based on the other feedback.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time, and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the replacements will last twice as long. I use standard Desser retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:43 am Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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One thing to be aware of on the Goodyears, or any other tire for that matter, is
that the tire shape is not identical. So always always check for good clearance.
As far as I'm concerned, there isn't anything major that would swing a person
towards one tire or another. The expensive ones usually get more landings,
the cheaper ones usually get less...but in cost per landing it's probably not
huge either way. Also, the retreads may weigh more, but they're still built
on name brand cores...mine have usually been Goodyear cores. So, if they
weigh more, think about it....that means there is more rubber there.
So there really isn't any big sway one way or the other.
Goodyear, AeroClassic, Retreads...so far I just find the retreads to be the
most rubber for the buck, but there isn't really anything that you can do
to make a very significant mistake in buying tires if you just get something
that's known to work ok.
Tim
On 9/6/2013 2:18 PM, Pascal wrote:
[quote] I have heard good feedback on the Goodyear tires as well. Maybe more expensive but yet another option over the aero classics.
From: Rob Kochman (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:40 AM
To: rv10-list (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
Thanks, guys... I may just stay with what I have for simplicity reasons and based on the other feedback.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time, and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the replacements will last twice as long. I use standard Desser retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com (rv10rob(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here, I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the Aero Classics again. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Kellym
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:33 pm Post subject: Monster retread clearance issue? |
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Just keep in mind that the most expensive tire, the Goodyear Flight
Custom III is the heaviest tire made for any given size. Often by a
couple pounds or more per tire. I have had much better wear life with
Desser standard retreads than any other tire. I believe the retread is a
little harder compound. I do not find them any heavier than a stock new
tire. You may get any brand core. Depending on their stock and which
sales person you get, you may be able to specify which brand core you want.
On 9/6/2013 12:42 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
| Quote: | One thing to be aware of on the Goodyears, or any other tire for that
matter, is
that the tire shape is not identical. So always always check for good
clearance.
As far as I'm concerned, there isn't anything major that would swing a
person
towards one tire or another. The expensive ones usually get more
landings,
the cheaper ones usually get less...but in cost per landing it's
probably not
huge either way. Also, the retreads may weigh more, but they're still
built
on name brand cores...mine have usually been Goodyear cores. So, if they
weigh more, think about it....that means there is more rubber there.
So there really isn't any big sway one way or the other.
Goodyear, AeroClassic, Retreads...so far I just find the retreads to
be the
most rubber for the buck, but there isn't really anything that you can do
to make a very significant mistake in buying tires if you just get
something
that's known to work ok.
Tim
On 9/6/2013 2:18 PM, Pascal wrote:
> I have heard good feedback on the Goodyear tires as well. Maybe more
> expensive but yet another option over the aero classics.
> *From:* Rob Kochman <mailto:rv10rob(at)gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2013 11:40 AM
> *To:* rv10-list <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Monster retread clearance issue?
> Thanks, guys... I may just stay with what I have for simplicity
> reasons and based on the other feedback.
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com
> <mailto:apilot2(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I would advise against the Monster Retreads. Yes they might last
> a bit longer, but you will do less landings as you get more time,
> and the landings will be ever so much smoother that the
> replacements will last twice as long. I use standard Desser
> retreads on my Mooney, where clearance in the gear wells would be
> an issue with the Monster retreads. Never had a clearance problem.
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com
> <mailto:rv10rob(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
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> After ~300 landings on my original Aero Classics tires, it's
> almost time for new ones. Based on the recommendations here,
> I'm considering the Monster retreads. Do I need to worry
> about my wheel pant clearance? If so, I may just get the
> Aero Classics again. Thanks...
> -Rob
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