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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: RV10-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/22/13 Reply with quote

Has anyone had a failure of the red cube fuel flow transducer?   I move mine to the engine compartment down stream from the mechanical fuel pump about 75 hrs ago.  Has preformed flawlessly and no more intermittent flow drops that possibly could be secondary to vapor problems.  However, I took a day trip to Dallas today.  90 deg F temps.  The plane sat on the ramp all day.  Started right up,  normal flow and pressures across the board.  About 10 minutes into a 30 minute flight,  the flow dropped to 1.5 gal /hr and stayed about there.  No real change with turning on the fuel pump.  Fuel pressure remained normal, recycled the electronics came back on with the same low reading.  I haven't had time to open up the cowling.  Acts just like the red cube failed.    Any pointers?  


Thanks

Dr Fred

515FW

575 hrs.

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     1. 12:52 AM - Me vs. RV  (Mike Whisky)
     2. 12:10 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod  (Jeff Carpenter)
     3. 03:51 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod  (Linn Walters)
     4. 09:20 PM - Re: Me vs. RV  (rv10flyer)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 12:52:55 AM PST US
Subject: Me vs. RV
From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net (rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net)>


Quite impressive how strong the prop blast is.
http://youtu.be/n6ubo04hn1A
.
Mike

--------
RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
#511


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408972#408972


________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 12:10:32 PM PST US
From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod

Okay... here's what I've come up with... a shortened tension rod and a
custom washer made from j-channel. I don't think it's possible to get
the gap any better. I'm still not happy with the lock nut resistance.
I've got that question in to Vans.. and not happy that the nut isn't
sitting flat, but that's been determined by Vans putting the hole too
close to the bend.


On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

> When I make the outboard tension rods to the plan specs, I get the gap
you see in the attached picture between the curved portion of the fwd
left air ramp and the cooling fins. Is this correct, or should a make a
new tension rod to reduce the gap?
>
> Also, I don't feel much resistance as I tighten the MS21042-06 lock
nut on the 6-32 threaded end of the tension rod. Is this peculiar to me
or have others found this? Any suggestions to keep this from backing off
in flight?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
>
> <photo.jpeg>


________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 03:51:49 PM PST US
From: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 09:20:17 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Me vs. RV
From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com (wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com)>


Cool video. Static run-ups above 1700 rpm increase your risk of blade damage due
to gravel/sand.

--------
Wayne G.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: RV10-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/22/13 Reply with quote

Yes. I have one on my Mooney. Several cases of the wire leads breaking,
which depending on which one gives you high or low readings or none at
all. The leads need to be well protected from flexing and vibration.

On 9/23/2013 6:49 PM, Fred Williams wrote:
Quote:
Has anyone had a failure of the red cube fuel flow transducer? I
move mine to the engine compartment down stream from the mechanical
fuel pump about 75 hrs ago. Has preformed flawlessly and no more
intermittent flow drops that possibly could be secondary to vapor
problems. However, I took a day trip to Dallas today. 90 deg F
temps. The plane sat on the ramp all day. Started right up, normal
flow and pressures across the board. About 10 minutes into a 30
minute flight, the flow dropped to 1.5 gal /hr and stayed about
there. No real change with turning on the fuel pump. Fuel pressure
remained normal, recycled the electronics came back on with the same
low reading. I haven't had time to open up the cowling. Acts just
like the red cube failed. Any pointers?

Thanks

Dr Fred
515FW
575 hrs.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:02 AM, RV10-List Digest Server
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formatted
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1. 12:52 AM - Me vs. RV (Mike Whisky)
2. 12:10 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Jeff Carpenter)
3. 03:51 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Linn Walters)
4. 09:20 PM - Re: Me vs. RV (rv10flyer)

________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 12:52:55 AM PST US
Subject: Me vs. RV
From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net
<mailto:rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net>>
Quite impressive how strong the prop blast is.
http://youtu.be/n6ubo04hn1A
.
Mike

--------
RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
#511
Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408972#408972
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 12:10:32 PM PST US
From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com
<mailto:jeff(at)westcottpress.com>>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod

Okay... here's what I've come up with... a shortened tension rod and a
custom washer made from j-channel. I don't think it's possible to get
the gap any better. I'm still not happy with the lock nut resistance.
I've got that question in to Vans.. and not happy that the nut isn't
sitting flat, but that's been determined by Vans putting the hole too
close to the bend.
On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

> When I make the outboard tension rods to the plan specs, I get
the gap
you see in the attached picture between the curved portion of the fwd
left air ramp and the cooling fins. Is this correct, or should a
make a
new tension rod to reduce the gap?
>
> Also, I don't feel much resistance as I tighten the MS21042-06 lock
nut on the 6-32 threaded end of the tension rod. Is this peculiar
to me
or have others found this? Any suggestions to keep this from
backing off
in flight?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
>
> <photo.jpeg>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 03:51:49 PM PST US
From: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
<mailto:flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com>>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 09:20:17 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Me vs. RV
From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com
<mailto:wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com>>
Cool video. Static run-ups above 1700 rpm increase your risk of
blade damage due
to gravel/sand.

--------
Wayne G.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: RV10-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/22/13 Reply with quote

I have the red cube mounted in my engine compartment too. I have 430 hours on mine with no trouble and within .3 gallons every time I check at fill up. I know in the directions that came with the cube, hard mounting to the engine can cause failure due to excessive vibration.

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On Sep 23, 2013, at 16:49, Fred Williams <drfred1960(at)gmail.com (drfred1960(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Has anyone had a failure of the red cube fuel flow transducer? I move mine to the engine compartment down stream from the mechanical fuel pump about 75 hrs ago. Has preformed flawlessly and no more intermittent flow drops that possibly could be secondary to vapor problems. However, I took a day trip to Dallas today. 90 deg F temps. The plane sat on the ramp all day. Started right up,  normal flow and pressures across the board. About 10 minutes into a 30 minute flight, the flow dropped to 1.5 gal /hr and stayed about there. No real change with turning on the fuel pump. Fuel pressure remained normal, recycled the electronics came back on with the same low reading. I haven't had time to open up the cowling. Acts just like the red cube failed. Any pointers?


Thanks

Dr Fred

515FW

575 hrs.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:02 AM, RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
Quote:
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in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
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of the RV10-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.

HTML Version:

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Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:52 AM - Me vs. RV (Mike Whisky)
2. 12:10 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Jeff Carpenter)
3. 03:51 PM - Re: Outboard Tension Rod (Linn Walters)
4. 09:20 PM - Re: Me vs. RV (rv10flyer)



________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________


Time: 12:52:55 AM PST US
Subject: Me vs. RV
From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net (rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net)>


Quite impressive how strong the prop blast is.
http://youtu.be/n6ubo04hn1A
.
Mike

--------
RV-10 builder (flying, test phase)
#511


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408972#408972


________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________


Time: 12:10:32 PM PST US
From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod

Okay... here's what I've come up with... a shortened tension rod and a
custom washer made from j-channel. I don't think it's possible to get
the gap any better. I'm still not happy with the lock nut resistance.
I've got that question in to Vans.. and not happy that the nut isn't
sitting flat, but that's been determined by Vans putting the hole too
close to the bend.


On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:

> When I make the outboard tension rods to the plan specs, I get the gap
you see in the attached picture between the curved portion of the fwd
left air ramp and the cooling fins. Is this correct, or should a make a
new tension rod to reduce the gap?
>
> Also, I don't feel much resistance as I tighten the MS21042-06 lock
nut on the 6-32 threaded end of the tension rod. Is this peculiar to me
or have others found this? Any suggestions to keep this from backing off
in flight?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
>
> <photo.jpeg>


________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________


Time: 03:51:49 PM PST US
From: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)>
Subject: Re: Outboard Tension Rod


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________


Time: 09:20:17 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Me vs. RV
From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com (wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com)>


Cool video. Static run-ups above 1700 rpm increase your risk of blade damage due
to gravel/sand.

--------
Wayne G.


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409024#409024





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