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czech6(at)kellin.net
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: fly-in

I will probably fly an airplane from California to Colorado and drop in to 

the get together. Kingman, Arizona. If that changes I'll let you know.



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ca6209(at)flash.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: fly-in

What is the fly-in date?

If you need a GIB from wherever call me.

I think an event as described will be a BLAST!

Gary



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: fly-in

Kingman, Arizona in March. Sounds good to me. Some flying, formation, eating, drinking

hanger fly. Probably good in that order.



Lots of runway and open spaces! Good enchiladas at the airport.



Carl Hayes could probably get us some gas deals. (not from the enchiladas)



Any serious takers?

Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: fly-in

I would be in if we picked one of the last weekends in march....let's see  

what we can get Jet A for.  I will talk with my buddies around CA  too

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: fly-in

I may fly out commercial if it seems there will be a good showing.



Ernie



On 2/14/06, Colyergreg(at)aol.com <Colyergreg(at)aol.com> wrote:

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 I would be in if we picked one of the last weekends in march....let's see

 what we can get Jet A for.  I will talk with my buddies around CA  too

SD737(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: fly-in

I have vacation last weekend in March and could make it down from  Reno.

I'm sure two other California 29's would make it also.

Like I said befor Carl and Jill Hays just moved their operation to Kingman  

and they would be helpful if anyone needed tools/maintenance.

czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: fly-in

See if Carl will work on a fuel deal.

I'm in for any weekend.



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Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: fly-in

I am in for the last weekend in march with SD737....you in Pete?

ca6209(at)flash.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: fly-in

I'm in and maybe Marvin.

Gary

Houston

Need a date ASAP so I can book a flight



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: fly-in

Are we talking the weekend of March 25? March 31/April 1 is Easter.

We need to hear from everyone that IS coming.



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eastcoastflyer29(at)hotma
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: fly-in

Kingman AZ....?   That's gonna be a pricey one for us guys on the East 

Coast.  It would be an expensive flight to get my pig out there. Oink, 

Oink....

Think I'll wait untill Oshkosh and go for the big show and bring a 4 sale 

sign and see if I can find any suckers.





[quote]From: "Gary Cole" <ca6209(at)flash.net>

Reply-To: l29-list(at)matronics.com

To: <l29-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Re: fly-in

Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:53:15 -0600






I'm in and maybe Marvin.

Gary

Houston

Need a date ASAP so I can book a flight



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Bcolombo(at)twcny.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: fly-in

Do you think it is possible to Bitch any more about your 29. No one really 

cares how much you hate it and what a huge pig, slow POS you think it is. If 

you hate It so much DON'T fly it. Stop whining and go away. This site is for 

people who want to talk about there l29's share info and experiences Not cry 

about how much they hate them. Just my .02

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eastcoastflyer29(at)hotma
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: fly-in

Your .02??



Do you own an L-29?  My guess is no.  Have you actually flown in a L-29?  My 

guess  is no.

Do you have a L-29 type. My guess is no.  Do you have anywhere near 1,000 

hours?  My guess again is no and that's ok.  I don't care one way or the 

other so don't bother correcting me if I'm wrong, but I'm probably right on 

the mark "if I had to guess".

I enjoy my plane, but unfortunately it is a pig.  It's a characteristic of 

the L-29. (Marginal performance and fairly significant fuel burn)   I've 

watched the market on the L-29's and it has  literally fallen out of the sky 

because of cheap ratty imports and of course expensive fuel. Some of the 

guys are trying to sell their L-29s and they are stuck with let's say, "A 

pig n a poke"  LOL!

Calling the L-29 what it is "a pig" is not bitching or whining.  Reality is 

reality.  Now, with the JT or Viper conversion the plane is a good 

performer, but with the M701 it's a pig.

The forum is just that.... a forum.  Like it or hate it.

We all wish the plane had more than 1900# (give or take) of thrust and 

that's indisputable.  If you don't appreciate my comments then just read 

past my posts.  Simple as that.

Best regards my fellow "piglets"    "Oink, Oink"

That's my .10 worth.

Have a great day/evening!

[quote]From: "Brian Colombo" <Bcolombo(at)twcny.rr.com>

Reply-To: l29-list(at)matronics.com

To: <l29-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: Re: fly-in

Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:03:36 -0500






Do you think it is possible to Bitch any more about your 29. No one really

cares how much you hate it and what a huge pig, slow POS you think it is. 

If

you hate It so much DON'T fly it. Stop whining and go away. This site is 

for

people who want to talk about there l29's share info and experiences Not 

cry

about how much they hate them. Just my .02

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Colyergreg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: fly-in

alright,  just how many might be in for a AZ flyin?  serious guys  email me 

at _AVL29Delfin(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AVL29Delfin(at)aol.com)  so I  can get a good 

count. There will be 5 or so from northern CA here.

czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: fly-in

So we all agree to block out Steve Roberts.

Don't worry about making the fly-in from the East coast Steve, I think 

several post ago we suggested that you try to NOT come to our fly-ins. 

Thanks for doing so, regardless of the excuse. L-39s are available for 

$125,000. I'll give $33,000 for your pork, it is the other white meat. Then 

you can get a super fast, high altitude, long range L-39. Or do as I have 

done, put a Viper in your L-29 and enjoy the ride. And out perform the L-39. 

Even your fuel flow will go down.



Serious question, did you test fly it before you bought it? What were you 

expecting and which part of turbines & fuel flow didn't you grasp? That fact 

has never changed since the first turbines. So try to have a good time when 

at the fly-in yard with your buddies, (I assume you don't alienate 

everyone,) remember, a bad day at the airport is better than a good day at 

work.



Bad markets are typical. Gas price up = ALL airplane prices go down.



I read your first post, you definetly were whinning and bitching. I'm 

married with children, I definetly know what whinning and bitching sounds 

like. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....



MOVING ON....



Dear happy owners/pilots;



We pretty much figure this is a West Coast fly-in. There are a few in the 

East that we can't afford to get to. We too want to fly and hang out. Of 

course we welcome everybody that graves those days when they can fly even if 

we can only afford a few times around the patch.



We need to contact Carl Hayes, learn where we sleep, how many $$ for fuel.

I will be happy to call him. Does anybody have his number?

Who's really serious about the weekend of the 25th? (week before Easter) 

Show up Friday go home Sunday or when $$ runs out? (Friday afternoon!)



Well, its a great snowy day in Colorado! Normal 25 kt. wind, Skiings good, 

I'm still vertical and breathing on my own. How bad can it be. Satrt saving 

for gas!



2's IN!



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czech6(at)kellin.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: fly-in

1 from Southern Cal. and one from Colorado. But I will call the other Rocky 

Mountain owners.



(2)



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ainut(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:15 am Post subject: fly-in

Bill, can you enlighten us on the Viper engine, please?  Like, how easy 

are they to find, costs, fuel burn, and best of all, how they make the 

-29 soar???



Thanks,

David

Bill wrote:

[quote] 

 

 So we all agree to block out Steve Roberts.

 Don't worry about making the fly-in from the East coast Steve, I think 

 several post ago we suggested that you try to NOT come to our fly-ins. 

 Thanks for doing so, regardless of the excuse. L-39s are available for 

 $125,000. I'll give $33,000 for your pork, it is the other white meat. Then 

 you can get a super fast, high altitude, long range L-39. Or do as I have 

 done, put a Viper in your L-29 and enjoy the ride. And out perform the L-39. 

 Even your fuel flow will go down.

 

 Serious question, did you test fly it before you bought it? What were you 

 expecting and which part of turbines & fuel flow didn't you grasp? That fact 

 has never changed since the first turbines. So try to have a good time when 

 at the fly-in yard with your buddies, (I assume you don't alienate 

 everyone,) remember, a bad day at the airport is better than a good day at 

 work.

 

 Bad markets are typical. Gas price up = ALL airplane prices go down.

 

 I read your first post, you definetly were whinning and bitching. I'm 

 married with children, I definetly know what whinning and bitching sounds 

 like. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....

 

 MOVING ON....

 

 Dear happy owners/pilots;

 

 We pretty much figure this is a West Coast fly-in. There are a few in the 

 East that we can't afford to get to. We too want to fly and hang out. Of 

 course we welcome everybody that graves those days when they can fly even if 

 we can only afford a few times around the patch.

 

 We need to contact Carl Hayes, learn where we sleep, how many $$ for fuel.

 I will be happy to call him. Does anybody have his number?

 Who's really serious about the weekend of the 25th? (week before Easter) 

 Show up Friday go home Sunday or when $$ runs out? (Friday afternoon!)

 

 Well, its a great snowy day in Colorado! Normal 25 kt. wind, Skiings good, 

 I'm still vertical and breathing on my own. How bad can it be. Satrt saving 

 for gas!

 

 2's IN!

 

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RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: fly-in

I'm just a lowly 100 hour pilot, still learning to land, LOL, but I can see  

the economics involved with these "pigs" Someone else stated they are pigs  

relative to other jet warbirds, but compare favorably in performance to piston  

warbirds. Now, using the P-51 as an example, take the $1 million dollar 

purchase  price, 60+ gallons per hour of fuel burn, 1000 hour or less TBO on the  

powerplant, and expense involved with it's rebuild (guessing $75000). Compare  

that to the -29 price of $45,000, 160 gallons per hour, and replacement  

powerplants are how much? $8000 or so? Looks like the -29 is much more  economical 

to me! Written from the viewpoint of a know nothing Cessna driver of  course, 

so take my opinion with several grains of salt!

Boyce

ca6209(at)flash.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: fly-in

2 In from Houston.

We will have to come commercial so what airport will we need to book to?

As I have 2 29s a C and R model this will be great.

Blake is doing the Mig 21 training if any one wants an expensive log book

entry.

Any help I can give let me know.

I talked with Bob S. in Ill. And maybe he will come.

I am working on an owner that bases in Dallas area also.

All the more will help with parts swaping,etc.

Gary

Ca6209(at)flash.net



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Bcolombo(at)twcny.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: fly-in

You just keep proving what a joke you are. Wrong on all accts. Have one, 

N6235m, Fly it and love it. Go away. Have you not yet figured out no one 

wants you around here.

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