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Rick S.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Anyone heard from Rivethead Aero in the form of a delivery or contact?

I place an order 3 weeks ago, followed up this week with an email and a phone call, mail box full on answering machine....check returned, address no good.

Laughs on me, I ordered them online with Paypal so some recourse if it's gone bad which I don't think it has.

A post by Matt Burch on Vansairforce today asked the same thing, I know a -10 builder on the list is related somehow.

Bueller? Bueller?

Rick S.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I got my parts from them a week ago I think. From the time I placed the
order to the time I got it was about 3 weeks. I think stuff gets made
in batches, and goes out when ready. I wouldn't worry about
"recourse"... I've ordered a bunch from him, and it always shows up -
just make sure to place the order long before you need the part!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Thanks CJ,

I wasn't worried, I saw the post on Vansairforce and figured I ask out loud on the list for peace of mind mainly and to dispell rumors that always start once the "are they in business" posts start.

Rick S.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I recieved RV10 door parts in about a month. Not good follow up to calls
and emails but the order was delivered.

Dick Sipp
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Rick,

I've tried numerous times to contact them and place an order before they
showed the door things on the website. I talked to him once and he was
going to call back. Never heard from him - I've left several messages
and emails since to no avail.

Bob #40105

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

That's really too bad. I got the trim cable mounts a while back but I don't recall how long it took. I'll say it again for any of you vendors lurking, fastest way to make or kill your business in aviation is word of mouth. Not responding to potential customers, or worse current customers, will do more damage than anything else in the Internet age let alone in hanger talk.

You want to run a business, act like you actually give a crap about your customers and you will never have to worry about bad press taking a foothold. Zack, I believe Dave is your nephew or something like that. He makes some nice stuff but you might want to say something to him before this slides anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Same experience here. Took a long time. Little response in the
interim. But it all came in and met expectations... except for
timeliness and responsiveness. But that includes cost and quality.

I'll do it again as long as I have the lead time.

Richard Sipp wrote:
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I recieved RV10 door parts in about a month. Not good follow up to
calls and emails but the order was delivered.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Who has the Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set? Reply with quote

In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close up photos and measurements?
I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people interested.
I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

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Date: 2007/09/08 Sat PM 01:06:29 EDT
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In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close up photos and measurements?
I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people interested.
I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.

Michael

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Yep we are still waiting to. Hope we have not blown $100 AUS

Chris
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I placed an order with them. Didn't hear boo, but after 3 weeks a
package showed up at my door. The quality of the products are
outstanding. Be patient, they will show up and you will be pleased.
The product fill a void and I am grateful that Rivethead is helping out.

If you still want dimensions let me know, but I doubt the effort to
build them yourself would be worth it.

Larry

Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
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In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close up photos and measurements?
I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people interested.
I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.

Michael

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Maybe we could go through PAYPAL and try and get our money back. Its a hard
one as people say he will deliver but how long is one meant to wait with no
comunication from supplier. Is 2 months to long?
Its a bit hard to knock on his door from the other side of the world.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I had a similar situation where I ordered the product and paid via PP
but I paid to the email address on his product website (I think
rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net) unfortunately he did not have a PP account
under that address and thus was never notified of the purchase. The
refund from PP was easy (for a change) and I did finally get him on the
phone and my parts shipped immediately but the total time was ~6 weeks
from first order to receipt.
As a long time e-merchant of many different items from many different
sites I can appreciate the challenges of a mom & pop situation however
if you don't take care of you don't take care of your customer they
won't take care of you. Even more so with a small community like the -10
folks.
I personally own all the software & Haas CNC mills to make any of these
products but no inclination for mass production.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Lucky you try 2 months and still waiting!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat to
see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the reciept
from Paypal.
They dont answer there phone or emails.

If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
Parts

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since Oshkosh and are trying to get unburied.

Vern Smith

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From: VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>

Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat to
see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the reciept
from Paypal.
They dont answer there phone or emails.

If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
Parts

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the website used within paypal was wrong.  I don’t recall who that is but it would be helpful if they could respond with what the correct email address was for them (in paypal).  My purchase sent money to dczach86(at)hotmail.com (dczach86(at)hotmail.com).  I have sent emails to rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net (rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net) as well as the hotmail address w/o response.  I haven’t actually called the phone number yet…

-Ben
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?


I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since Oshkosh and are trying to get unburied.

Vern Smith

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> From: VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>
>
> Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat to
> see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the reciept
> from Paypal.
> They dont answer there phone or emails.
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> If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

Ben,
            The specifics are coming back to me now. After I requested my payment credit from PP and received it immediately (surprise) Rivethead contacted me and said the PP account was not associated with the email address rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net (rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net) and the best way to order and pay for the parts is to click the RV-10 button on their home page and use the order form associated with their shopping cart. Doing this now and checking out via PP takes one to an order form but I don’t see an email address on the check out form. Figures.
I did however look up my personal PP history and found my payment (July 25, 2007) with a business contact of the seller listed as:

Business Contact Information

Customer Service URL:
[img]cid:image003.png(at)01C7F486.49ED9350[/img]
http://www.rivethead-aero.com
Customer Service Email:
[img]cid:image003.png(at)01C7F486.49ED9350[/img]
dczach86(at)hotmail.com (dczach86(at)hotmail.com)
Customer Service Phone:
[img]cid:image003.png(at)01C7F486.49ED9350[/img]
302-437-6087


            I assume that has to be the email address associated with the account?
Because I paid for my products using PP but charging my CC (vs. deducting my bank account) the PP history states that I will see the following information on CC statement:

This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *FULLTHROTTL".

            I doubt any of this will help and I am surprised that no one has been able to make contact as long as this thread has been running. I wish you all luck.

Robin

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:42 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?



Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the website used within paypal was wrong. I don’t recall who that is but it would be helpful if they could respond with what the correct email address was for them (in paypal). My purchase sent money to dczach86(at)hotmail.com (dczach86(at)hotmail.com). I have sent emails to rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net (rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net) as well as the hotmail address w/o response. I haven’t actually called the phone number yet…

-Ben
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?


I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since Oshkosh and are trying to get unburied.

Vern Smith

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> From: VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>
>
> Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat to
> see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the reciept
> from Paypal.
> They dont answer there phone or emails.
>
> If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
> Parts
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? Reply with quote

I did, several months ago, receive a response when I emailed him at
dczachorowski(at)comcast.net You may have luck getting a hold of him there,
although a response did take several days. I did order the RV-10 parts
off the website and received them about 4 weeks after I paid.

PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032

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Ben,

The specifics are coming back to me now. After I requested my payment
credit from PP and received it immediately (surprise) Rivethead
contacted me and said the PP account was not associated with the email
address rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net <mailto:rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net>
and the best way to order and pay for the parts is to click the RV-10
button on their home page and use the order form associated with their
shopping cart. Doing this now and checking out via PP takes one to an
order form but I don’t see an email address on the check out form.
Figures.

I did however look up my personal PP history and found my payment
(July 25, 2007) with a business contact of the seller listed as:

*Business Contact Information
*

*Customer Service URL:*



https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif



http://www.rivethead-aero.com

*Customer Service Email:*



https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif



dczach86(at)hotmail.com <MAILTO:dczach86(at)hotmail.com>

*Customer Service Phone:*



https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif



302-437-6087

I assume that has to be the email address associated with the account?

Because I paid for my products using PP but charging my CC (vs.
deducting my bank account) the PP history states that I will see the
following information on CC statement:

This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL
*FULLTHROTTL".

I doubt any of this will help and I am surprised that no one has been
able to make contact as long as this thread has been running. I wish
you all luck.

Robin

*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Westfall
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:42 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?

Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the
website used within paypal was wrong. I don’t recall who that is but
it would be helpful if they could respond with what the correct email
address was for them (in paypal). My purchase sent money to
dczach86(at)hotmail.com <mailto:dczach86(at)hotmail.com>. I have sent emails
to rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net <mailto:rvsilverbullet(at)comcast.net> as
well as the hotmail address w/o response. I haven’t actually called
the phone number yet…

-Ben

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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vernon Smith
*Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?

I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My
credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright
side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been
disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since
Oshkosh and are trying to get unburied.

Vern Smith

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> From: VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
>
>
<VHMUM(at)bigpond.com>
>
> Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a
chat to
> see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the
reciept
> from Paypal.
> They dont answer there phone or emails.
>
> If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
> Parts
>
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