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AB_Summit

Joined: 16 Jul 2007
Posts: 23

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Hello everyone,



I'm looking for more information on the Suzuki/Geo 1300 conversion in the 701. I'm just wondering if any of you that have this combination flying, and what your empty weight and useful load is.



I'm also wondering what the difference in installed weight is between the Rotax 912 and the Suzuki engine, complete with radiators, etc.



Thanks in advance,

Randy

larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Randy,

Check out Rick Roberts 701 on his website www.n701rr.com as his is the 

only Suzuki I know of right off.  Very smart looking

profile etc.  Has to be a good performer, and I suspect lighter, but he 

should be able to give you that info.



Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com



AB_Summit wrote:

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 Hello everyone,



 I'm looking for more information on the Suzuki/Geo 1300 conversion in the 701. I'm just wondering if any of you that have this combination flying, and what your empty weight and useful load is.



 I'm also wondering what the difference in installed weight is between the Rotax 912 and the Suzuki engine, complete with radiators, etc.



 Thanks in advance,

 Randy





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John75142

Joined: 05 Dec 2007
Posts: 56
Location: Kaufman, TX

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Larry:



Do you have an email address for Rick? I am seriously thinking this is the 

way I will go for the power plant and would like to contact him directly for 

more info.

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rroberts

Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Birmingham, AL USA

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

I'm here guys. I'll email you all off-line.

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Rick
www.n701rr.com
www.ricksplace.info

Joemotis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Hi Rick,

  

 I would also like to receive your e mail.

  

 Thanks,

 Joe Motis



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mikefapex

Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Posts: 70
Location: Colorado

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Rick,



Please include me on the Suzuki engine reply too. 

Thank you,



Mike



mikefapex at gmail dot com

kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Me too, please.



Kevin

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Dorothy McCune

NYTerminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

Me too!  Bob Spudis

  

  

 In a message dated 12/20/2007 12:58:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  Joemotis(at)aol.com writes:

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		     Hi Rick,

    

   I would also like to receive your e mail.

    

   Thanks,

   Joe Motis



	


 

  



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skyguynca

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 128

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

ME TOOO please!

  

  

 David Mikesell

230 Theresa Drive, #6

Cloverdale, CA  95425

209-224-4485

skyguynca(at)skyguynca.com (skyguynca(at)skyguynca.com)

www.skyguynca.com

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rroberts

Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Birmingham, AL USA

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Empty weight/Useful load of 701/1.3L Geo conversion

OK here goes. There isn't much flight data yet as I can't remember to fly and write at the same time.  It gets off the ground like a bat out of hell or like a pussy cat..you choose.



I'm using the IVO Ultralight prop, In-flight adjustable.  Right now I have the ground adjustable hub on it and Tommy and I set the pitch to 10.5 degrees per Jeron.  I see 5400 RPM WOT on takeoff.  In cruise I have seen 90 IAS but that isn't saying much right now. 



Jeron, Raven, advertises the engine wt a 168 lbs.  I'm not sure of the stand alone weight as I never weighed it.  Raven does supply the engine mount and exhaust for the 701 so you don't have to worry about that.



You will have to think about and build your fuel injection  - fuel delivery system as after the recommended pump the rest is up to you.  ( ZAC needs to weld a return fitting on one of your fuel tanks..eg) 

BUT there are several 701 flying with this combo so we all can/will help.



You will also have to deal with the cooling system.  Larry McFarland solved my problem.  I copied his Subaru system and it's perfect.  http://www.macsmachine.com/



The 582 engine cowl will work..thats up to you.  I used the Jabiru cowl.



Guys...my airplane was heavy compared to Tommy's with a 912.  My empty weight is 744.  Part of that, I'm sure is my base coat clear coat paint system and my big fat panel, etc.  (not to mention the rear galley) ;>)



With my 17lb battery mounted about a foot aft of the bottom access hole the W&B is near perfect..just a tish nose heavy which is fine with me.



The airplane flew from day one hands off!  



I'd recommend, if you're thinking about this conversion, to buy www.homebuilthelp.com video THE 912 COMPETITION.  Jeron's piece will answer many of your questions for sure.  Then buy the Raven manual!



I plan on having the plane at Sun & Fun in the ultralight section so I hope to meet you there.



I have just moved from GA to Ft Lauderdale so my Phase 1 has hit a snag. I must get it done and the plane down here ASAP!



BTW, I got .5 hours in the right seat of a Fairchild Metroliner today.  Its got nothing on our 701s! :>)



Anymore questions..ask away.



Rick

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www.ricksplace.info

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