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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

My 701 was given an airworthiness certificate yesterday. It’s ready to fly, but still needs some paint and a few add-ons.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
It took me about a year and a half working 4 or 5-hours per day, or about 1500 hours to build it. I guess you could build one in the advertised 500 hours if you are really really fast and already built a few other 701s to get your speed up, but I couldn't do it. Each additional item I added (like a removable panel, cargo and under-tail access doors, much lighter mailbox type door locks, and an internal BRS chute) took me an extra week or two of work. The chute put an extra 40# behind the baggage compartment but the CG and empty weight still looks OK. Why a chute? A trip in a 2-seat ultralight from San Francisco to the Grand Canyon and back early this year convinced me of the need to be able to make a "soft" emergency landing in places where it would not be possible without a chute. I would not have taken this spectacular flight without a chute.
I placed a picture of N67MG below, but don't know if Matronics will allow it to be posted.
Regards,
Les Goldner
701 N67MG
<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Petaluma, Ca

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Congratulations !!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Congratulations!

Re:(like a removable panel, cargo and under-tail access doors, much lighter mailbox type door locks, and an internal BRS chute)
I'd like to see pics of the plane and the above, if you can get the pics to work.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Congrats Les ! !! Soon the sky will be filled with 701s! ! Don't forget to get a couple hours of flight time with someone in their 701,

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Les,
Great to here another 701 will be taking the skies soon. Keep us posted on the first flight and
stay safe.
Art
--- Les Goldner <lgold(at)quantum-associates.com> wrote:

Quote:
My 701 was given an airworthiness certificate yesterday. It's ready to fly,
but still needs some paint and a few add-ons.

It took me about a year and a half working 4 or 5-hours per day, or about
1500 hours to build it. I guess you could build one in the advertised 500
hours if you are really really fast and already built a few other 701s to
get your speed up, but I couldn't do it. Each additional item I added (like
a removable panel, cargo and under-tail access doors, much lighter mailbox
type door locks, and an internal BRS chute) took me an extra week or two of
work. The chute put an extra 40# behind the baggage compartment but the CG
and empty weight still looks OK. Why a chute? A trip in a 2-seat ultralight
from San Francisco to the Grand Canyon and back early this year convinced me
of the need to be able to make a "soft" emergency landing in places where it
would not be possible without a chute. I would not have taken this
spectacular flight without a chute.

I placed a picture of N67MG below, but don't know if Matronics will allow it
to be posted.

Regards,

Les Goldner

701 N67MG
Petaluma, Ca



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Kevin,
I will try to take some pics of the enhancements I made and send them out in
a week or two to those who request them.
I flew the plane today for the first time. I was very lucky that Paul
Reinders (both a Z-701 and Boeing 747 CFI who lives here in N. California
during the winter) agreed to go on the plane's maiden flight and show me how
to fly it. Within an hour and a half I was able to solo... Still need a lot
of practice since this plane flies very differently than my "old" Challenger
II UL.
The plane performed as advertised. It tracked and stalled well so I think I
a "keeper". I was warned not to let the speed get to low (below 40-MPH) on
final without applying power to slow the sink rate.
Regards and happy holiday,
Les


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Thanks I'll be waiting. My buddy is almost done with a long wing Challenger, so when my 701 flys it'll be a fun comparison.

Kevin


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

I big congrats to you and what a nice christmas present... Remember these 701/801 series planes are VERY aerodynamically dirty and will sink like the titanic when you get too slow. safe flying...
do not archive
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Kevin,
I will try to take some pics of the enhancements I made and send them out in
a week or two to those who request them.
I flew the plane today for the first time. I was very lucky that Paul
Reinders (both a Z-701 and Boeing 747 CFI who lives here in N. California
during the winter) agreed to go on the plane's maiden flight and show me how
to fly it. Within an hour and a half I was able to solo... Still need a lot
of practice since this plane flies very differently than my "old" Challenger
II UL.
The plane performed as advertised. It tracked and stalled well so I think I
a "keeper". I was warned not to let the speed get to low (below 40-MPH) on
final without applying power to slow the sink rate.
Regards and happy holiday,
Les


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Les,
I noticed on the 701 demo flight that Roger kept milking the throttle on approach to keep the sink
rate down and probably to clear the carbs. One thing is for sure the 701 does not have a glide
ratio like a C152. Good to hear your first flight went well. Happy Flying.

Art/701/Scratch/Procuring Materials and Tools
--- Les Goldner <lgold(at)quantum-associates.com> wrote:

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Kevin,
I will try to take some pics of the enhancements I made and send them out in
a week or two to those who request them.
I flew the plane today for the first time. I was very lucky that Paul
Reinders (both a Z-701 and Boeing 747 CFI who lives here in N. California
during the winter) agreed to go on the plane's maiden flight and show me how
to fly it. Within an hour and a half I was able to solo... Still need a lot
of practice since this plane flies very differently than my "old" Challenger
II UL.
The plane performed as advertised. It tracked and stalled well so I think I
a "keeper". I was warned not to let the speed get to low (below 40-MPH) on
final without applying power to slow the sink rate.
Regards and happy holiday,
Les


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Kevin,
The 701 seems to glide OK above 50+MPH but under 40MPH the sink rate seems
high. My instructor told me to keep it to 60-MPH on approach, just throttle
down and lift the nose just before touch-down, and add a little power if it
sinks too fast until I got more familiar with the plane's characteristics.

Does anyone have data on the 701's glide ratio and best glide speed with a
100-HP Rotax 912 lightly and heavily loaded?

Regards and happy Holiday,
Les


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Another 701 is ready to fly Reply with quote

Sounds about right. There is a graph of glide ratios on the following link.
I don't know if it will come up as a hyper link on this website, so you may have to cut and past it.

Kevin

http://www.stolspeed.com/content.php?id=48


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