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lbmathias(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Automatic Flaps

Hi Lightning Lovers,

  

     I have a mystery to see if you  can help explain; when I use 10 degrees flaps for takeoff in the Lightning, they  raise automatically during the takeoff.   I have never had to retract  the flaps after takeoff.   Any ideas?  Anyone else noticed the  same phenomenon?

  

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EAFerguson(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

Linda,

  

 Sounds like the old hand resting on top of the stick trick to me. However,  in my case the flaps always go down, not up. But I'm left handed.

  

 Earl Ferguson

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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

In a message dated 12/24/2007 6:02:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  EAFerguson(at)aol.com writes:

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		  Sounds    like the old hand resting on top of the stick trick to  me. 	


 

 Nope, Earl, that's not it, because it happens when I fly her airplane as  well.  But, tell me, what weird position are you in to have your hand  resting on top of the stick?  Is that some new world record setting  trick?

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lbmathias(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

[quote]   Earl,

    

       That is definitely not it; the hand never rests on top    of the stick.  They are really retracting without pilot    intervention.

    

                                                                Linda 

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vettin74(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

Linda,

   

  Look for Movement in the inboard flap bracket. On the earlier kits, about 30 and earlier the counter sunk structrual screw that holds the bracket on was a bit long, so the manufacture of the flap used an extra washer, unfortunately this caused the braket to loosen over time and cause the flap to move about a 1/2" or so but no problem in flight. Discovered this on our Demo. The plane was out of trim all of a sudden. We also after about 20 degress flaps noticed a roll as flaps deployed. One flap would stay up a bit as the other went down causing a roll. We have since fixed the this on the kits long ago but not before ours or yours, and have flown the demo and all of our  problems have gone away. The plane flys straight flaps up or down as it should.....

   

  nick



JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS <lbmathias(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]        Hi Lightning Lovers,

   

      I have a mystery to see if you can help explain; when I use 10 degrees flaps for takeoff in the Lightning, they raise automatically during the takeoff.   I have never had to retract the flaps after takeoff.   Any ideas?  Anyone else noticed the same phenomenon?

   

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

Ok Nick.  How did you fix it? And what again am I looking for?  

     

John Davis  

  

         

  

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Linda,  

    

   

    

Look for Movement in the inboard flap bracket. On the earlier kits, about 30 and earlier the counter sunk structrual screw that holds the bracket on was a bit long, so the manufacture of the flap used an extra washer, unfortunately this caused the braket to loosen over time and cause the flap to move about a 1/2" or so but no problem in flight. Discovered this on our Demo. The plane was out of trim all of a sudden. We also after about 20 degress flaps noticed a roll as flaps deployed. One flap would stay up a bit as the other went down causing a roll. We have since fixed the this on the kits long ago but not before ours or yours, and have flown the demo and all of our  problems have gone away. The plane flys straight flaps up or down as it should.....  

    

   

    

nick

 

 JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS <lbmathias(at)verizon.net> wrote:  

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Hi Lightning Lovers,  

    

   

    

    I have a mystery to see if you can help explain; when I use 10 degrees flaps for takeoff in the Lightning, they raise automatically during the takeoff.   I have never had to retract the flaps after takeoff.   Any ideas?  Anyone else noticed the same phenomenon?  

    

   

    

                                                      

  

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

[quote]   Nick,

       That may well be the problem;    my right flap is down about 5 degrees sitting on the ground.   At    times it looks about 10 degrees but I can bring it back up to 5 degrees by    lifing the flap manually.   I also have a roll to the right when    stalling with flaps; how do I fix it?

    

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vettin74(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: Automatic Flaps

Linda,

   

  When i get back to TN i will email you the fix..

   

  nick



JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS <lbmathias(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]    [quote]  Nick,

      That may well be the problem; my right flap is down about 5 degrees sitting on the ground.   At times it looks about 10 degrees but I can bring it back up to 5 degrees by lifing the flap manually.   I also have a roll to the right when stalling with flaps; how do I fix it?

   

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