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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

I'm getting the Firestar ready for its certification inspection and I'm curious about the leading edge tubes that stick out of the wing root about a foot. Any idea what they do? I'd just as soon cut them off and plug them, but not if they actually have a purpose. TIA.

Rick

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Firestar I question Reply with quote

I use mine to keep the wing secure in the transport mode....

Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN

PS I would also like to secure them to each other in flight for a little
extra strength...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

Rick,

I find the tube extensions useful when folding and unfolding the wings.
I trailer my plane each time it is used and use a tripod to support the
unfolded wing prior to inserting the pins. The tripod supports the
outer end of the wing and the tube extension supports the front edge of
the wing by resting on the top of the full enclosure. Makes the folding
and unfolding a one-man job. Also, the extension is used in the folded
plane to tie the wings together.

Vince Nicely
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Richard Girard wrote:

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I'm getting the Firestar ready for its certification inspection and
I'm curious about the leading edge tubes that stick out of the wing
root about a foot. Any idea what they do? I'd just as soon cut them
off and plug them, but not if they actually have a purpose. TIA.

Rick

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

At 10:37 AM 1/13/2008, Richard Girard wrote:
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I'm getting the Firestar ready for its certification inspection and I'm
curious about the leading edge tubes that stick out of the wing root about
a foot. Any idea what they do? I'd just as soon cut them off and plug
them, but not if they actually have a purpose. TIA.

I've seen Kolbs both with and without the extensions. My Ultrastar has the
extensions, and there's another section of tubing that slips over them and
joins them together when the wings are unfolded. Whether that piece is
actually necessary I don't know, it should stiffen the wings a bit and it
also helps to support the fabric center gap seal (clear plastic, actually,
on mine). IIRC it's not shown that way on the drawings, though. I've
never flown the plane without it, but I figure it can't hurt.

-Dana
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

Those leading edge extensions are real handy if you fold and unfold regularly.if you have the long windshield installed,the tubes rest on the "U" frame so you can rest the tip of the wing on the ground and walk to the fuselage to install the pin.With out them,you must support the wing leading edge as you work your way to the cage to install the pins.The dihedral will not allow the extensions to line up to tie them together easily.

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[quote]I'm getting the Firestar ready for its certification inspection and I'm
curious about the leading edge tubes that stick out of the wing root about
a foot. Any idea what they do? I'd just as soon cut them off and plug [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

My gap seal hooked to the tubes your talking about cutting off, if it wer me I would take advantage of all the uses of them and not cut them off.
Holding wing in place while installing pins, and a good place to secure the wings in a trailer, or on a open trailer, I use them to secure the wings when I hauled it down the road tail first without a trailer, but its your plane have fun trying to find another handy tool built in that makes life easier with a Kolb or cut them off and come up with alternative ways to do what they can do for you.

its your decision have fun with it

Ellery in Maine
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Firestar I question Reply with quote

At 08:44 PM 1/13/2008, gary aman wrote:
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Those leading edge extensions are real handy if you fold and unfold
regularly.if you have the long windshield installed,the tubes rest on the
"U" frame so you can rest the tip of the wing on the ground and walk to
the fuselage to install the pin.With out them,you must support the wing
leading edge as you work your way to the cage to install the pins.The
dihedral will not allow the extensions to line up to tie them together easily.

The Ultrastar is different, the extended tubes actually make it _more_
difficult to unfold the wings, since the pivot point is at the main spar
and not the rear... the rear fitting is its own support as you lift the
wingtips up. There's so little dihedral (if any) that slipping the splice
tube into place is no problem.

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