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dwilde(at)clearwire.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

All:  Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from 

the local FSDO.  This took over an hour for some reason.  Anyway while I 

was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane 

(701).  He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.  

Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time 

you complete an assembly.  I can find no such thing.  Does anyone have a 

clue what he was talking about?



Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special 

Airworthiness Certificate.  Hopefully that will not come back to bite me 

somehow. 



I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could 

use some better organization to speed up the process.  It is totally 

asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.



Dan Wilde

rroberts

Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Birmingham, AL USA

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Inspection Checklist

Dan,

Looks like every FSDO might be different.  Did mine via the US mail.  The guy called me and wanted me to send in a copy of my builders log.  About two weeks later, along came my certificate.

Painless.



Mine was the Atlanta FSDO.

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

Dan-

    There's a checklist at the start of each section of my 601HDS manual. 

Wonder if that's what he's talking about? Definitely chickenshit, because 

you could check things off before you ever completed them!

                                                        Bill

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kmccune

Joined: 22 Sep 2007
Posts: 577
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Inspection Checklist

Why would you check off things that are not done/completed? Its your neck the check list is protecting.

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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

At the Detroit FSDO all he wanted to see is the construction logbook  

with photos and the aircraft registration. You need to show evidence  

that you were actually the person that built the airplane.



On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Dan wrote:



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 All:  Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization  

 from the local FSDO.  This took over an hour for some reason.   

 Anyway while I was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist  

 for my airplane (701).  He said Zenith should have provided or made  

 available one.  Apparently this checklist is something you sign or  

 check off each time you complete an assembly.  I can find no such  

 thing.  Does anyone have a clue what he was talking about?



 Dan Wilde




	


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Bryan Martin

N61BM, CH 601 XL,

RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.

do not archive.

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

For what it's worth my 801 kit had a  complete assembly manual. At the end of each section there was a checklist and a place to sign off the sub assembly.  Of course neither the FAA or the DAR even asked to look at it. 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- Dan <dwilde(at)clearwire.net> wrote:

--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dan <dwilde(at)clearwire.net>



All:  Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from 

the local FSDO.  This took over an hour for some reason.  Anyway while I 

was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane 

(701).  He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.  

Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time 

you complete an assembly.  I can find no such thing.  Does anyone have a 

clue what he was talking about?



Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special 

Airworthiness Certificate.  Hopefully that will not come back to bite me 

somehow. 



I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could 

use some better organization to speed up the process.  It is totally 

asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.



Dan Wilde



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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

Not in the least. I just mentioned it to point out how ridiculous the system 

is.

                    Over and out. Do not archive.

                                                                Bill

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klr12(at)psu.edu
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

Dan,

  I know it's only semantics, but you did not get a "Repairman Inspection Authorization". Technically, there is no such privilege.  You may perform a "Condition Inspection" on a specific aircraft built by you, the certificate holder as per FAR 65.104. Inspection Authorizations are only available to A&P mechanics who have been active for a minimum of 3 years.

                                                                                                                Kevin Rupert

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davgray(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

"Repairman Experimental Aircraft Builder" is the  wording on the card indicating your authorization as a repairman.

 On the back of the card it will list the specific  aircraft that the card applies to.

  

 My FAA rep emphasized the specific wording that  needs to be entered into the aircraft log book on the annual condition  inspections and the need to keep accurate records of deficiencies found and the  work performed to remedy the situation.

  

 Gary Ray

  

  

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cj.tremblay(at)videotron.
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

Hi Dan,  

   

I got  IPLs (Inspection Part List) sheets for my own plane CH640. It's a current process in the aeronautical and other industries for insure good process assembly. I find mine on Zenith Web Site. Look for yours. I attach one file example of mine to this email to show you what's it's look like.  

   

   

   

Christian Tremblay  

A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan  

http://www.zodiac640.com/  

   

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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dan <dwilde(at)clearwire.net>  

   

All:  Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from   

the local FSDO.  This took over an hour for some reason.  Anyway while I   

was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane   

(701).  He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.    

Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time   

you complete an assembly.  I can find no such thing.  Does anyone have a   

clue what he was talking about?  

   

Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special   

Airworthiness Certificate.  Hopefully that will not come back to bite me   

somehow.   

   

I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could   

use some better organization to speed up the process.  It is totally   

asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.  

   

Dan Wilde

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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: Inspection Checklist

What we do,  is that in each page of the contruction manual (the printed photo one) we hand print the date we finished each step in that page, in the upper corner.   

  Same did when we built the 701.  

  At the beguining of the 701 project, we used to put the time involved (hour or fraction) in each step-page, but was very dificult sometimes to remember to see the watch... 

   We finaly decided to record in a personal page, the time we spended (individualy) each day (efective work, no visits or day dreaming , that gives us a close estimate of the time and hours invested. 

  We make teams of two (in fact now two teams:  Larry & Carlos and Me & Gary Jr),  masters and helpers    Also I am elected the "Project Manager", this is to read the manual and plans a few steps in advance to have everything ready and explain to "the Teams". All parts to use in the day,  are located and get ready in the first minutes of each working day.

   Each one of us decides one day at a time,  what music we are going to hear while building.  Soft drinks and snacks costs are devided in four, sometimes the visitors bring them, so we save some cash    Fun and Team work is responsability of all of us 

   

  Saludos

  Gary Gower

  Flying from Chapala, Mexico.

  701 912S

  Now building the 601 XL, Jabiru 3300 .



Bill Naumuk <naumuk(at)alltel.net> wrote:

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Dan-

There's a checklist at the start of each section of my 601HDS manual. 

Wonder if that's what he's talking about? Definitely chickenshit,  because 

you could check things off before you ever completed them!

Bill

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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Inspection Checklist

Hi Dan;



Perhaps he is referring to the FAA Form 8000-38 Fabrication/Assembly Operation Checklist. I attached a copy of the form.



Dan <dwilde(at)clearwire.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Dan 



All:  Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from 

the local FSDO.  This took over an hour for some reason.  Anyway while I 

was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane 

(701).  He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.  

Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time 

you complete an assembly.  I can find no such thing.  Does anyone have a 

clue what he was talking about?



Also he       Be a better friend, newshound, and

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dwilde(at)clearwire.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Inspection Checklist

To Christian and others.  Thank you for the information.  The inspector 

was the first time I had heard of this checklist and it sounds like a 

good idea, just a little late in my case.

I used the assembly manuals as a check and simply put them in a 3 ring 

binder when I had completed each section.  Hopefully this information 

may help others earlier in the building process.



Dan Wilde



Christian Tremblay wrote:

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 *Hi Dan,*



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 *I got  IPLs (Inspection Part List) sheets for my own plane CH640. 

 It's a current process in the aeronautical and other industries for 

 insure good process assembly. I find mine on Zenith Web Site. Look for 

 yours. I attach one file example of mine to this email to show you 

 what's it's look like.*



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 *A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan*



 *http://www.zodiac640.com/*



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mfrench601(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: Inspection Checklist

You will find the construction checklist provided in the Zenith Buiders Manual with a list of assembly steps for each phase.  There are also places for your signature and the inspectors.

   

  Michael French



David Downey <planecrazydld(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Hi Dan;



Perhaps he is referring to the FAA Form 8000-38 Fabrication/Assembly Operation Checklist. I attached a copy of the form.



Dan <dwilde(at)clearwire.net> wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: Dan 



All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from 

the local  FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason. Anyway while I 

was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane 

(701). He said Zenith should have provided or made available one. 

Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time 

you complete an assembly. I can find no such thing. Does anyone have a 

clue what he was talking about?



Also he     Be a better friend, newshound, and 	


	


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