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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

<![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail  Signature" <![endif]--><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><![endif]--><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that  was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip  file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing  pics.......

 http://www.col-east.com/download.php

  

 (There's also a wonderful recording of big band  jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only  be up for a few more days......)

  

 Steve

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Morning Steve,

  

 Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that  machine last summer.

  

 It is even more impressive when seen in person. 

  

 Have you seen the time compressed video that shows it being  assembled?  

  

 Truly an awesome sight and an awesome machine. 

  

 Incidentally, there is a 40B hanging in the Museum of Science And Industry  right next to a Boeing 727.

  

 If you can't make it to Spokane, but do get forced into visiting mayor  idiot's city, make the best of a bad situation and take the opportunity to visit  the museum.  

  

 They also have a beautiful example of the Travel Air Mystery Ship.   That was the first airplane that Walter Beech built which was way ahead of it's  time.

  

 For those of you who might wonder what business this information has on a  Bonanza website, Walter Beech was one of the founders of the Travel Air  Corporation. The first airplane built under the Beechcraft name was the  Model 17.  

  

 Why was the first effort named the Model 17?

  

 Because it was originally the Travel Air Model 17.

  

 When Curtiss Wright Corporation decided to get out of the smaller aircraft  business, they shut down the  Travel Air Division. Walter was President of  that division and he asked permission to take the design with him to start a new  corporation called Beech Aircraft Corporation. Eighteen designs later, we got  the Bonanza.(That isn't precisely true because the numbers were played with  along the way, but that is how the model 35 number was chosen).

  

 The last design built by the Travel Air Division of Curtiss Wright  Corporation was a large open cockpit bi-plane, the Model 16.

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:04:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,  steve2(at)sover.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that    was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip    file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing    pics.......

   http://www.col-east.com/download.php

    

   (There's also a wonderful recording of big band    jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will    only be up for a few more days......)

    

   Steve

	






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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,

  

 My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned  the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to  that list.

  

 Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous  project.

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,  BobsV35B(at)aol.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Good Morning Steve,

    

   Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see    that machine last summer.

    

   It is even more impressive when seen in person.  

	






Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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steve2(at)sover.net
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain  oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve  that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.

  

 You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of  the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of  the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the  ground.

  

 I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was  something I didn't know.

  

 Steve2

 Steve Welebny

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

I have sat in the pilot seat!!  It is truly a work of art.  I delivered a Murphy Moose to Libby Montana and we all stopped on the way back to look at it.  It was ready to fly, but waiting on the FAA paperwork.  jb

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		  Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? 	


 

 

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Morning Steve,

  

 As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to  make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It  has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000.  There a great examples of many other machines with which Walter was  associated.

  

 Where are you located and what are you flying these days?

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,  steve2(at)sover.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain    oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve    that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.

    

   You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of    the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite    of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the    ground.

    

   I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was    something I didn't know.

    

   Steve2

   Steve  Welebny

	






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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Hi Bob,

  

 The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.

  

 I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We  had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More  important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at  the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, I had a great  backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other  stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over  Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans  though.....)

  

 Steve

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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Lucky dog!

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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Steve,



Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My family 

still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, Northport. I 

go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation Museum there, 

and when I was young my winter home was about 10 minutes from 

Farmingdale (Republic) Airport. All my childhood memories tend to be 

filled with images of Republic Aircraft Co. airplanes....



Where on LI were you?



/J



Steve at Col-East wrote:

[quote] Hi Bob,

  

 The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.

  

 I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. 

 We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool 

 stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real 

 pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer 

 for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting 

 some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and 

 just flying Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly 

 a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....)

  

 Steve



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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Afternoon Steve,

  

 If you like airplane pictures, check out:  http://beechcraftheritagemuseum.com

  

 There is rolling bunch of photos on the home page. 

  

 One of the Twin Beeches pictured about half way through belongs to our  number three son. The N number is N929DV.

  

 There is also an in flight shot of the Museum's early Beech  Bonanza. It is serial number D-18. I had the pleasure of flying it to Oshkosh  last year with the President of Beech flying on my right wing in a new G36 and  the Chief Financial Officer flying his model 33 on my left wing.  We were  the second element in the annual Bonanzas to Oshkosh flight.

  

 After you get done watching the slide show, look at the rest of the  site!

  

 Do Not Archive

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:28:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,  steve2(at)sover.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Hi Bob,

    

   The Beech museum is in Tennessee? I'll make a point of getting    there.

    

   I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We    had Lindbergh's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More    important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at    the museum.

	






Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

John,



My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming home 

from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered as a kid. 

The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and Grumman guys and 

gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running battle as to how much 

each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So much aviation history took 

place there. It's such a shame so many of those old airports lost out to 

development. You must remember Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing 

instructing there in Cub's. We've got a chunk of the old runway 

somewhere......



I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a lot of 

time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got older and 

moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing and getting silly 

expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving away. Used to walk down 

to the Sound most nights... Remember watching nor'easters from up on top of 

the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out of Mt. Sinai Harbor.....



Steve





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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

I'm too young to remember Zahn's, I moved away from there at age 9, only 

to return every summer.....but the Northport Stacks are visible across 

the meadow from our house there, and there were only 3 when I was a kid 

(now there are 4, but they scrapped the plan to build 2 more). I've 

heard that LILCO is the most polluting utility in the US, but that might 

just be some angry treehuggers complaining. I've never seen more than 2 

turbines operating at any one time.



The COA Museum is a testament to why we need to protect our airports. 

It's essentially still a beautiful airfield...but only the ramp and 

hangar section. No runways or taxiways!



I love Long Island. Few places are as beautiful in the summer as eastern 

LI. A bit of my heart will always be there, and I'm hoping to keep the 

property in the family for a few more generations...or until global 

warming puts the house under water . For that matter, we've lost a 

few decks to nor'easters. Those are storms never to be trifled with, 

either in an airplane or on a boat.



I've played golf all over LI, I like the great south bay.



The ONE thing I haven't done is flown my Commander from CA to NY. One of 

my goals is to do a fly-by of the beach. I've done no flying in small 

aircraft on LI, and it's a shame....I bet it's beautiful. I usually go 

back once in May and once in September. If I go in my airplane this 

year, I might go a little later so I can head up to VT/NH for a scenic 

flight when the leaves change color.



/J



Steve at Col-East wrote:

[quote] 

 <steve2(at)sover.net>



 John,



 My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming 

 home from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered 

 as a kid. The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and 

 Grumman guys and gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running 

 battle as to how much each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So 

 much aviation history took place there. It's such a shame so many of 

 those old airports lost out to development. You must remember 

 Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing instructing there in Cub's. 

 We've got a chunk of the old runway somewhere......



 I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a 

 lot of time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got 

 older and moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing 

 and getting silly expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving 

 away. Used to walk down to the Sound most nights... Remember watching 

 nor'easters from up on top of the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out 

 of Mt. Sinai Harbor.....



 Steve





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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

Old Bob,

 Where can one see the  time-compressed video?

 Nico

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at  Col-East

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:03 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Boeing  40C

 

 Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain  oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve  that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.

  

 You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of  the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of  the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the  ground.

  

 I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was  something I didn't know.

  

 Steve2

 Steve Welebny

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

Steve, didn't you promise  pictures of you and the J-3 on skis?

   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at  Col-East

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:20 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Boeing  40C

 Hi Bob,

 The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.

 I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We  had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More  important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at  the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, I had a great  backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other  stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over  Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans  though.....)

 Steve

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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Evening Nico,

  

 It was floating around the web a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I did not  save it. If I can locate it, I will post it, but I will bet the builder has a  website. Unfortunately, I have misplaced that as well!

  

 Happy  Skies,

  

 Do Not  Archive

 

Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West 86th  Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22



  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,  nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Old Bob,

   Where can one see the    time-compressed video?

   Nico

	




Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

  [quote][b]

BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

Good Evening Once Again Nico,

  

 I believe the timed assembly shot is on the Pemberton's website, but I  can't seem to get it to work!

  

 Give it a try yourself at: www.pembertonandsons.com

  

 Hope it works for you!

  

 Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

628 West  86th Street

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630 985-8502 

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

  

  In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,  nico(at)cybersuperstore.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Old Bob,

   Where can one see the    time-compressed video?

   Nico

	






Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

  [quote][b]

yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Boeing 40C

I ave flown one.  Last summer I moved a Travel air 4000 from Oregon to Washington state.  I got to fly it several additional times through the summer.  Not the best flying old biplane I have flow (I have flown several including a couple UPF7s, a CK Bird and others)  The are really cool to look at.  If I could post pix here I have some super shots flying it up the Columbia river.  jb

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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

JB, I'd love to see some shots of the Travel Air.  The back side of the Cascades have some beautiful country. I'd bet some others  of the group would enjoy them too. I could receive some emails to my work  address with attachments, and post some pics to our website for a couple  days.....

  

 I know a number of old aircraft were great to look  at, but not fly as sweet as they looked. The 4000 would have been either an  'Elephant ear' or speedwing?

  

 Steve

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Boeing 40C

It is an "Elephant Ear".  jb

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