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shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Trailer

Remember Guys,when I asked every one for ideas for a TRAILER??this past 

winter?I took all of your ideas+mine.I drew my own plans what I thought 

a trailer should be.and here is the finished idea..I had it built by a 

Trailer company called Weld Tech..This is the first time that I had a 

airplane on it,on a 100 mile trip.right down I-75.at 60-65mph with no 

problems..This will haul all most any single engine airplane TW or tri 

gear airplane..and it will fit in a 1 car garage..this plane is a 1948  

C170.4 place airplane.tri gear planes fit on the orther way,nose wheel 

sits in the V nose of the trailer..airplanes all sit close to the 

ground,,all so trailer has wing racks on each side for up right 

hauling,tri gear main landing gear sits on out riggers attched to the 

trailer that pulls out in the V part of trailer on the out side of the 

frame.I can haul any single airplane up to app 2500 lbs.I have showed 

this to a few people and airplane haulers.and they are interested in 

buying them.I have one sold all ready so far..NOW I want more help from 

all of you what do you think of this set up??will it sell???do you think 

there is a market??I have sold 1 all ready,and the trailer company is 

building the next on for me.this will be trailer no 3..this trailer here 

that you see is no.1,,and is the pro type trailer or demo trailer..I 

want to have a web site set up to market these..any ideas???think it 

will work???  THANKS Kitfox family for all your ideas for this 

trailer....STEVE  SHINABERY  N554KF   +  KF2   ,,P.S.all so this trailer 

will be on display at the GREAT LAKES AREA  KITFOX  FLY-IN    Sunday May 

11th at Celina Oh..{CQA}west central Ohio,,oh yes the trailer has 2 

different toungs all so a short + long one.and all so has a winch..along 

letter you are all board probley now..just wanted to see what every one 

thinks of it...

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shinco(at)bright.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: Trailer

another picture of trailer at a road side rest area north of Cincinnati 

Ohio on I75 heading home to Lake field airport.handles great.but be care 

full not to run over the mail box across the road from my home  on the 

way out ,to pick this up :-[ it is extra long,,,STEVE SHINABERY  N554KF KF2

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helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: Trailer

Looks similar to what I built.

John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton. ok



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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Trailer

 	  Quote: 	
		  .NOW I want more help from

all of you what do you think of this set up??will it sell???do you think

there is a market??I have sold 1 all ready,and the trailer company is

building the next on for me.this will be trailer no 3..this trailer here

that you see is no.1,,and is the pro type trailer or demo trailer..I

want to have a web site set up to market these..any ideas???think it

will work??? 	




Nice trailer. As for the viability from a business perspective, I think much depends on your expectations. Would you be happy if you sold ten in a year? With general aviation being a shrinking industry, I think that number would be more likely than 100. For what it's worth, here's what I would do:



First, use the money from your first sale and buy a MIG welder and a chop saw then take a welding class. Building your own trailers will maximize your profit and you get to learn something.



Second, rather than building a particular trailer and then trying to sell it, I'd approach the business as more of a "custom aviation trailer" shop. That way, you can tweak your trailers to the unique needs of each customer. I for one would rather have a trailer that is built specifically for my Kitfox with a suspension tuned for my airplane's weight rather than a 'one size fits all' approach.



Hope this helps.

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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Trailer

At 10:33 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  NOW I want more help from all of you what do you think of this set 

up??will it sell???do you think there is a market??I have sold 1 all 

ready,and the trailer company is building the next on for me.this 

will be trailer no 3..this trailer here that you see is no.1


	


         There may be a small market for such a trailer. A few months 

ago we had a Luscombe groundloop with severe damage. The local 

airport bums, (me included,) basically carried the plane off the 

runway, but then it had to be disassembled for return to the pilot's 

home base. (No repair facility locally.) Fortunately one of the FBO's 

had this huge trailer that was designed to carry disassembled 

airplanes so we loaded it and sent him off.

         I would guess that every region needs some capacity for 

dealing with damaged aircraft. You could market it to one of the FBOs 

in the region and promise to advertise that purchase throughout the 

region so people could come beg/borrow/rent it.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Trailer

I think the key to the whole thing is the suspension issue. Anybody  

can put together a trailer, but to be able to get the plane from A to  

B without "shakedown" damage is the utmost thing that I'd worry  

about, and carrying too little weight on a stiffly-suspended trailer  

will kill a light plane, or at least injure it.

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/490+ hrs

On Apr 23, 2008, at 10:38 AM, wingnut wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

> .NOW I want more help from

> all of you what do you think of this set up??will it sell???do you  

> think

> there is a market??I have sold 1 all ready,and the trailer company is

> building the next on for me.this will be trailer no 3..this  

> trailer here

> that you see is no.1,,and is the pro type trailer or demo trailer..I

> want to have a web site set up to market these..any ideas???think it

> will work???

 Nice trailer. As for the viability from a business perspective, I  

 think much depends on your expectations. Would you be happy if you  

 sold ten in a year? With general aviation being a shrinking  

 industry, I think that number would be more likely than 100. For  

 what it's worth, here's what I would do:

 First, use the money from your first sale and buy a MIG welder and  

 a chop saw then take a welding class. Building your own trailers  

 will maximize your profit and you get to learn something.

 Second, rather than building a particular trailer and then trying  

 to sell it, I'd approach the business as more of a "custom aviation  

 trailer" shop. That way, you can tweak your trailers to the unique  

 needs of each customer. I for one would rather have a trailer that  

 is built specifically for my Kitfox with a suspension tuned for my  

 airplane's weight rather than a 'one size fits all' approach.

 Hope this helps.

 --------

 Luis Rodriguez

 Model IV 1200

 Rotax 912UL

 Flying Weekly

 Laurens, SC (34A)

 Read this topic online here:

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=178656#178656

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Trailer

Maybe an adjustable air suspension or air shock absorber option?



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Rex Hefferan

SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs

Lynn Matteson wrote:



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 I think the key to the whole thing is the suspension issue. Anybody  

 can put together a trailer, but to be able to get the plane from A to  

 B without "shakedown" damage is the utmost thing that I'd worry  

 about, and carrying too little weight on a stiffly-suspended trailer  

 will kill a light plane, or at least injure it.



 Lynn Matteson

 Grass Lake, Michigan

 Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

 flying w/490+ hrs

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Rex
N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

Sam Brunson

Joined: 06 Apr 2008
Posts: 9

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: Trailer

Price and availability would be a big factor??? 



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: Trailer

Why not just add a couple of hundred pounds of ballast to the trailer..

visit a shop and try to make the ballast usable or at least saleable when

you get home.



Noel



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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

pwmac(at)sisna.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: Trailer

Yes,and lower the tire pressure on the trailer and the plane makes 

the ride nice and soft. Put a soft sponce ball under the tail of the 

plane to save the back end. Woke for me for 500 miles using a 7000 

pound gross car hauler.

Paul

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At 04:35 PM 4/23/2008, you wrote:

[quote]



Why not just add a couple of hundred pounds of ballast to the trailer..

visit a shop and try to make the ballast usable or at least saleable when

you get home.



Noel



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