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Arty Trost



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

A recent thread talked about airport managers who want to ban ultralights or light sport aircraft. Three years ago I flew into Ely,NV airport on my way to the MV fly-in. The airport manager (at the time - I understand he's no longer there) sent someone out to take pictures of our ultralights, saying he wanted them for "evidence". (Of what, I'm not sure.) We were also told not to come back through Ely - rather, to go to Eureka, NV - even though Eureka is 50 miles to the west - and we were heading east.

When we got home, I wrote to the County Board of Commissioners, which has jurisdictional authority over the Ely airport. I framed it as an educational letter - "In case you didn't know, your airport manager might be putting your airport's funding at risk by refusing to allow access to ultralights." I went on to cite the specific regulations related to airport funding and access for ALL flying vehicles. I got a phone call from a member of the Board and a verbal apology, as well as an invitation to come to Ely whenever we wanted.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

You did good Arty, that was a good way to handle it and sounds like it worked. Jswan

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

Good for you Arty! That is the mature way to handle a situation like this. However it just doesn't have the same satisfaction as punching his lights out. Rolling Eyes

Will and I ran into a similar thing near home. At Alamogordo NM, there is but one FBO. When we needed fuel for the FireStars, he said "it's not worth my time". Later I dropped in flying my Cessna and he asked if I needed fuel, I of course replied, "your not worth my time".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

Greetings,

Speaking of Alamogordo I started my rotorcraft training last week in this R22. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=757447603898244807&hl=en

Dave finally hovered his Mosquito helicopter last week.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

And just so you know, Will was holding a steady hover and doing pedal turns after about 5 minutes of training, NO JOKE! The FireStar is sure cheaper to operate though. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

Don't go hovering that thing over any fireflys....
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[quote] Greetings,
 
Speaking of Alamogordo I started my rotorcraft training last week in this R22. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=757447603898244807&hl=en
 
Dave finally hovered his Mosquito helicopter last week.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

So, Will. Are you going to get a Mosquito next?
Afetr the Waiex is done, then the Quickie gets restored, I want a Mosquito:)

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Greetings,

Speaking of Alamogordo I started my rotorcraft training last week in this R22. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=757447603898244807&hl=en

Dave finally hovered his Mosquito helicopter last week.



Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
Will's web page



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

, I wrote to the County Board of Commissioners, >>

Good stuff, Art.

I dont think any fields in the UK now refuse ultralights. That was not the case 5 or 7 years ago.
The main problem, perceived or real was the difference in our pattern speeds which, as ultralights have got more sophisticated and fast, has largely disappeared .

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Dealing with unfriendly airport mgrs. Reply with quote

Another point is the image.  If it LOOKS like a real airplane the retarded manager would , no doubt, be happy togreet it.  If it weighs 1000 lbs but LOOKS like an ultralight......
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, I wrote to the County Board of Commissioners, >>
 
Good stuff, Art.
 
I dont think any fields in the UK now refuse ultralights. That was not the case 5 or 7 years ago.
The main problem, perceived or real was the difference in our pattern speeds which, as ultralights have got more sophisticated and fast, has largely disappeared .
 
Cheers
 
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