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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

What are you all using for fuel filters?  

   

Also, has everyone used the supplied fuel line?  

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catalpaaviation(at)wideba
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Jim  

I have used the supplied fuel lines and Z15 filters same as Jabiru, no problems at all.  

Anthony Kit32  

   

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Thanks Anthony, what brand are the Z15 filters?



 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Catalpa aviation <catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au (catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au)> wrote:

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Jim 

I have used the supplied fuel lines and Z15 filters same as Jabiru, no problems at all. 

Anthony Kit32 

  

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catalpaaviation(at)wideba
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Jim  

   

They are just cheap ones from the local auto cheap store, no brand.  Same place I obtain oil filters (Z386) and NGK plugs.  

As a matter of interest what needle jet, main jets have you fitted and how many turns out for the idle jet?  

How’s the election going?  

   

Anthony  

   

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pete(at)flylightning.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

We use Fram G1 filters in our Jabiru LSA installations.  

   

Pete  

     

From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley

 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:21 PM

 To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Fuel Filters  

  

   

Thanks Anthony, what brand are the Z15 filters?    

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Catalpa aviation <catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au (catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au)> wrote:      

Jim  

I have used the supplied fuel lines and Z15 filters same as Jabiru, no problems at all.  

Anthony Kit32  

   

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 From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Jim Langley

 Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2008 1:26 PM

 To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com (lightning-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Fuel Filters  

   

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Ok, I have Fram G2 paper filters in line right now.  I believe that Green Landings uses the G1 filters and the only difference is in the nipple diameter.  I have not changed out the jet from stock yet as the engine runs very strong.  More flying will determine what to do from there.

   

 None of the polls have closed yet, but Obama looks to be a winner by everything I have seen.

  

 I'm not sure I like ether one of them.

  

 Jim!

 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Catalpa aviation <catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au (catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au)> wrote:

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Jim 

  

They are just cheap ones from the local auto cheap store, no brand.  Same place I obtain oil filters (Z386) and NGK plugs.  

As a matter of interest what needle jet, main jets have you fitted and how many turns out for the idle jet?  

How's the election going? 

  

Anthony 

  

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pequeajim

Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 708
Location: New Holland, PA

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Ha, Pete, you caught me typing when you sent your message.

  

 I am getting ready to order some of the G1s.  I just needed to hear the word from you guys on what you use.

  

 Jim!

 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jim Langley <pequeajim(at)gmail.com (pequeajim(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 [quote] Ok, I have Fram G2 paper filters in line right now.  I believe that Green Landings uses the G1 filters and the only difference is in the nipple diameter.  I have not changed out the jet from stock yet as the engine runs very strong.  More flying will determine what to do from there.

   

 None of the polls have closed yet, but Obama looks to be a winner by everything I have seen.

  

 I'm not sure I like ether one of them.

  

 Jim!

  

  On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Catalpa aviation <catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au (catalpaaviation(at)wideband.net.au)> wrote:

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Jim 

  

They are just cheap ones from the local auto cheap store, no brand.  Same place I obtain oil filters (Z386) and NGK plugs.  

As a matter of interest what needle jet, main jets have you fitted and how many turns out for the idle jet?  

How's the election going? 

  

Anthony 

  

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pennington(at)q.com
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hello Anthony

  

 I noticed you listed an oil filter for the Jab 3300 as Z386. What brand is  that? Is it available in the US?

  

 Thanks

 Gary Pennington

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catalpaaviation(at)wideba
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Hullo Gary  

Z386 is a common filter in Aust and can be purchased from any auto shop, Jabiru recommend RYCO.  Made in South Africa by G.U.D Filters  

Anthony  

   

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lbmathias(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: Fuel Filters

Gary,

  

     Napa's equivalent to the Ryco Z386 oil  filter works just fine in the 3300.  I can't remember the part number but  it is readily available in the U.S.

  

 Linda 

  

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selwyn

Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 102
Location: Australia

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Filters

The "Z" numbers are all Ryco filter numbers, and tend to be the often quoted filter numbers here, but everybody and his dog makes "equivalents"  and sells them through el cheapo automotive outlets.  The Z15 is a basic nylon enclosed pleated paper filter designed to get the large lumps out of fuel.  http://www.rycofilters.com.au/catalogue/product/part/Z15



The Fram G1 is similar.  I have a ryco Z15 as a primary filter on the long range tank of my 4WD which has had about 20,000 km worth of diesel through it and shows no sign of blocking, so it is not a fine filter.



The oil filter may be a little more critical and my feeling is that you would do well to source a high quality equivalent.



On a more general note, why do we have the Z15's in the fuel system anyway?  In Jabs they are the main (only?) filter in the fuel system but in the Lightning we have finger filters in the tank pickups which will get out anything likely to block the fuel lines and a gascolator which will get out anything likely to block the jets, what do the Z15's do for us except introduce another source of leaks and blockages?

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Cheers, Selwyn
Kit 66 VH-ELZ

Clive J

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 340
Location: UK

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: Fuel Filters

Good question Selwyn, we should only filter what can block jets or

damage pumps. Let the rest pass through.

In my microlight days we used a nylon mesh filter that allowed a certain

size of crud to pass through. Previously folk had used paper filters and

had issues with them as they blocked up at awkward times (when folk were

flying). They also collected water.

A reasonably fine nylon mesh filter was the standard fit for the Rotaxes

that I flew in those days. 

I used to back flush it once a year to get rid of what it had caught

when I did the annual. They had a see though case so you could visually

check them anytime you had the covers off. 



My Esqual was supplied with nylon mesh filters and that's what I fitted.

My Jabiru has the Ryco supplied one though I'm going to look out for a

nylon one for that too. I don't have a gascolator, I do drain the tanks

before every flight and after every refuel.



Regards, Clive

Esqual 3300

Jabiru SP 2200



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pennington(at)q.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Fuel Filters

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Thank you..... to everyone.

 Have a great day!

  

 Gary 

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