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gotosteven

Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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Location: ontario canada

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: ch701 Plans

well mabee i just will take you up on that let me try and arrange for a car ride. or mabee i will take the train. i am going to talk with my mother i know she has to go that way next weekend or the weekend after 



regardless i will try my best to see about a ride and try and get thare before x-mas if its alright

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gotosteven

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: ch701 Plans

flat stock aluminum. this is the second time i have heard this mentioned my father in law was saying that he can get me this at very reasonable rate from work 100$ for a 3 by 100ft roll would this be able to be buaght in the proper specs i need??



oh by the way i was not planning on skining it in 040 i am simply deciding to make some parts that call for 0.25 to be 0.40. i still fail to see the harm in oversizing if it doesn't affect weight to drastically 



 i see the the weight load for this plane and think most load i will ever put in it is me and after lots of test flights mabee someone else who has the balls but i weigh 170 suppose someone else weight 200 that would be a absoulute max load.  Far less than the actuall limits of the plane



one more qu

i have read on govment of canada website that homebuilts are not needed to be inspected  is this true ??

as note 2 quote from http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/general/recavi/Ultralight/ULTransitionStrategy/basic.htm



2.3  Basic Ultra-light Aeroplane Manufacturer/Owner Responsibility



Basic Ultra-light Aeroplanes may be built from an original design, purchased as a kit from an ultra-light aeroplane kit manufacturer or be a combination of these two possibilities. Regardless of how or where the aircraft is constructed or assembled, the responsibility to meet the design specifications and maintain the aircraft for continued safe flight rests solely with the owner of the aircraft. If the aircraft that is registered as an ultra-light aeroplane is modified so as to no longer be an ultra-light aeroplane the certificate of registration is cancelled.



Although the manufacturer of a Basic Ultra-light Aeroplane is not required to meet any criteria with respect to standards of materials, workmanship or the continuing “fit for flight” status of their product, it is strongly recommended that, in the interest of safety, Basic Ultra-light Aeroplane manufacturers use “aviation accepted” design criteria, materials and practices.

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gotosteven

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: ch701 Plans

also i read this 



Prospective purchasers of Basic Ultra-light Aeroplane kits should be aware that kit manufacturers and part suppliers are bound by no legal requirements under the Aeronautics Act. It is strongly recommended that owners and prospective owners of Basic Ultra-light Aeroplanes avail themselves of the information and services provided by the recreational aviation industry, schools and the ultra-light aviation community.



its statement like this that almost make you just want to come up with a rudder from another simpler plan of equal size better strenght.  anyone have a total weight for the rudder. i want a idea of what i am lookin at  



i guess my will be called a ch(theonlyone)

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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: ch701 Plans

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  On the other hand, he has an advantage most of us don't have, that of free  experience. Having spent most of my time building two airplanes, one for the  trash and one for the ramp ( I suspect there are a lot of us out there), I would  encourage him to take all the scrap aluminum sheet he can find, and build as  many parts as he can, build as much of the airframe as he can, and then return  them to the scrap yard after comparing his handiwork with what the plans  specify. He can then learn how it's done, appreciate the precision required,  develop a feel for the work AT NO COST, and when he's ready, get on with the  real thing. Call it a self-apprenticeship. Even better, if there's an EAA  chapter nearby, he can get a critique before diving in.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

 601XL/Corvair

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gotosteven

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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: ch701 Plans

well thanks to someone i got full set of plans and have decided to order 6061 t6 alluminum so far i am lookin for prices ranges i have found locally 180 for 8 by 12 sheet is this a good price 0.25??

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rjscep(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: ch701 Plans

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		   $180 for one sheet?? Thats a bit steep Steve, but I paid $285 for five

 sheets of .025 about 2 years ago. The prices might have changed, but I

 also paid $58 a sheet of .016 last June, so shop around....Bob S. 

 do not archive


	




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 Subject: Re: ch701 Plans

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 well thanks to someone i got full set of plans and have

 decided to order 6061 t6 alluminum so far i am lookin for

 prices ranges i have found locally 180 for 8 by 12 sheet is

 this a good price for .025 ??

 

 

 

 

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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: ch701 Plans

Steven, call Golden Triangle specialty metals in Cambridge, they are the

cheapest around for 6061 T6



Golden Triangle Specialty Metals ( 519) 623-5500; 471 Dundas St,

Cambridge, ON, N1R5R6.



Mark Townsend

Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.

519-590-7601 www.canzac.ca

Canadian Dealer for Zenith Aircraft Kits, Zenair Designs.

 



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ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: ch701 Plans

Steven, When you said $180 I don't think everyone noticed you said it was an 

8x12 sheet as we are used to getting 4x12 size so that was $90 for a 4x12 

also I don't know if you said that was Canadian dollars in which case it is 

a very good price even for .025" material (you didn't specify thickness.

Also as others said watch for someone selling their plans on ebay or 

barnstormers since some people are wanting to go to the new 750 design.

Hang in there, you can do this, and with care and patience you can do it 

cheap too!

Dirk

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gotosteven

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Re: ch701 Plans

well it is canadian dollers and it is 4x12 sheets but i have to buy at least 2 or they wont order any he has come with much cheaper prices for 032 and 040 its just the .025 is much more expensive ??



wow Cambridge is much better prices thanks again  263.69 for 3 1/2    4x12 sheets of 0.025 canadian             1  sheet of 0.032 88.47             1 sheet of 0.040 110.59



now i need to borrow my mom's truck

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