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 Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: Towing a Kitfox |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
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N345DY
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been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
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Float Flyr
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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He would need wheel pants and DOT spec tires (this side of the pond). Some jurisdictions require his plane to be licensed as a trailer and have appropriate signal lights added to it.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Towing a Kitfox
I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: Towing a Kitfox |
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Good info Noel, that's the first time I've heard some actual facts. I asked as many authorities as I could find about how to legally tow my KFII on the factory-supplied towbar and no one could answer, or even refer me to someone who could. Due to that and the stress I knew I would put on the main gear with the poor roads in rural PA I opted to get the flatbed trailer instead. Plus any excuse to buy a new toy is a good one.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: 07 January 2009 9:28 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
He would need wheel pants and DOT spec tires (this side of the pond). Some jurisdictions require his plane to be licensed as a trailer and have appropriate signal lights added to it.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Towing a Kitfox
I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)>
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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Float Flyr
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: Towing a Kitfox |
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I’ve only towed my plane a few times on wheels. I used a converted double snowmobile trailer. The deciding factors were the need for DOT certified tires and the fact the trailer has a lot wider axel so the chances of having an overturn are a lot less. The extra suspension of the trailer was a bonus.
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Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
912 almost installed
Aerocet 1100 floats
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:42 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
Good info Noel, that's the first time I've heard some actual facts. I asked as many authorities as I could find about how to legally tow my KFII on the factory-supplied towbar and no one could answer, or even refer me to someone who could. Due to that and the stress I knew I would put on the main gear with the poor roads in rural PA I opted to get the flatbed trailer instead. Plus any excuse to buy a new toy is a good one.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: 07 January 2009 9:28 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
He would need wheel pants and DOT spec tires (this side of the pond). Some jurisdictions require his plane to be licensed as a trailer and have appropriate signal lights added to it.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Towing a Kitfox
I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)>
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223264#223264
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| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: Towing a Kitfox |
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Well, in OK, it don’t need a license plate (or title or registration as a land vehicle), DOT tires are not an issue, and magnetic mount towing lights are acceptable. Any “trailer” for private use does not require paperwork, including my 30’ flatbed gooseneck, with dual tandem wheels and 20,000 lb. axles.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brennan
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:12 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
Good info Noel, that's the first time I've heard some actual facts. I asked as many authorities as I could find about how to legally tow my KFII on the factory-supplied towbar and no one could answer, or even refer me to someone who could. Due to that and the stress I knew I would put on the main gear with the poor roads in rural PA I opted to get the flatbed trailer instead. Plus any excuse to buy a new toy is a good one.
Bob Brennan - N717GB
ELSA Repairman, inspection rated
1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox
Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop
Wrightsville Pa
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: 07 January 2009 9:28 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
He would need wheel pants and DOT spec tires (this side of the pond). Some jurisdictions require his plane to be licensed as a trailer and have appropriate signal lights added to it.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Towing a Kitfox
I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)>
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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Float Flyr
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You live in a good jurisdiction for trailers!
Here, all those points have to be met and a person is well advised to also carry PL-PD insurance on the trailer/Plane. Motor vehicle registration will license just about anything as a trailer but it must have a suspension and DOT tires. That includes farm trailers and attachments towed on public roads behind tractors. It gets worse. We have to remember to renew our trailers every year and carry all the paperwork with us.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hart
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:18 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
Well, in OK, it don’t need a license plate (or title or registration as a land vehicle), DOT tires are not an issue, and magnetic mount towing lights are acceptable. Any “trailer” for private use does not require paperwork, including my 30’ flatbed gooseneck, with dual tandem wheels and 20,000 lb. axles.
John Hart
KF IV, NSI Subaru
Wilburton, OK
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: 07 January 2009 9:28 am
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Towing a Kitfox
He would need wheel pants and DOT spec tires (this side of the pond). Some jurisdictions require his plane to be licensed as a trailer and have appropriate signal lights added to it.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:21 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Towing a Kitfox
I have a friend who tows his model V tail first using the tow bar as designed. Seems to work just fine for him.
Dee Young
Model II
N345DY
Do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)>
been biting my tongue on this one for awhile... Have any the rocket scientists here bothered to look at what the factory designed for towing? These were designed by the original engineers, and were made to tow the dang plane wings level. I bet they were on to something when they came up with this hair brained idea to tow a plane down a road...
--------
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
As done as any plane will ever be.... cause now the tinkeritis takes over.
hander outer of humorless darwin awards
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