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rtdin
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Location: Florida panhandle
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 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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It breaks my heart to see that another of ours is lost. I can believe the theory that he was avoiding the SLC Class B by deviating to the North. Its only 25 NM direct from TVY to BTF. A 15 mile deviation to the North seems reasonable. He certainly was in radar contact and the details, including the SLC WX will come out soon.
This discussion of the 601XL limitations always seems to come up. The flaps "appear" to be extended. Really? It had just hit the ground! Do you think? And just how do we know that he was exceeding an air speed limit? And just why is it thought that he slammed the flight controls to the stops while at cruising speed? Has anybody actually ever seen any one do this? I have seen it only once 45 years ago when a friend did it in the landing flare in my Champ.
Most planes are designed to withstand the 50 foot per second wind gust at Va. That translates to 3,000 ft per minute. This is weather that you only see in squall lines or high winds in mountains. lets get off that full control deflection stuff at cruising speed and recognize that weather breaks more airframes.
If the 601XL is so touchy in pitch, lets fix it. How about new control geometry or an antiservo tab? Why do we live with it? Or maybe its just weather.
Sorry about the rant. Lets stop blaming the pilot until the facts are in. I so wanted to stay out of this.
Bob Dingley
601XL plans building Do Not Archive
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Juan Vega Jr
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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I say you keep blaming the pilot until the facts are in. The problem in this society is everyone wants to blame someone else. The guy crashed on the side of a ravene, and noone knows the facts. Speculation is a fancy word for Bulls^%$t. So lets keep the B$#(at)#(at)!t to a minimum. and wait until the facts come out.
Juan
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Juan Vega Jr
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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I say you keep blaming the pilot until the facts are in. The problem in this society is everyone wants to blame someone else. The guy crashed on the side of a ravene, and noone knows the facts. Speculation is a fancy word for Bulls^%$t. So lets keep the B$#(at)#(at)!t to a minimum. and wait until the facts come out.
Juan
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wjones(at)brazoriainet.co
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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Where can I read about this crash.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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numskull99(at)netzero.net
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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Wade,
Here is a link
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=5750646
Derek Lewis
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Where can I read about this crash.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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Gig Giacona
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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| wjones(at)brazoriainet.co wrote: | Where can I read about this crash.
Wade Jones South Texas
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Don't waste your time. There hasn't been enough info in any of the reporting of the accident to account for the electricity you will use in reading it.
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wjones(at)brazoriainet.co
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: TV news reports 601XL down in Utah |
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Thanks Derek
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL Franklin 0-235
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