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WPAerial(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Keep the weight off the nose wheel as much as possible it's not made to take 

it. Saw a 6A with chevy v6 fold nose gear over last week end.



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dbris200(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Long ago, my instructor explained that the nosewheel was there for only 

one purpose - to hold the nose up when the airplane was parked, and it 

should be landed accordingly.  That's probably what caused me to spend 

the rest of my flying life in taildraggers!



Dave B    -6 So Cal

Can't trust those nosewheels!

WPAerial(at)aol.com wrote:



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Keep the weight off the nose wheel as much as possible it's not made to take 

it. Saw a 6A with chevy v6 fold nose gear over last week end.



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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

At 06:06 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

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Long ago, my instructor explained that the nosewheel was there for only

one purpose - to hold the nose up when the airplane was parked, and it

should be landed accordingly.  That's probably what caused me to spend

the rest of my flying life in taildraggers!



Dave B    -6 So Cal

Can't trust those nosewheels!


	


That probably explains why all commercial airliners and military

aircraft are taildraggers.



Ron Lee



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Funny. Mine said that the nose gear was NOT part of the Landing Gear. It was 

designed to steer with and/or keep the tail high enough so that one could 

see where one going & go where one was looking. Taildraggers go left, look 

right then go right & look left and hopefully see some of what's directly in 

front of them.    8*)  HRII N561FS..  KABONG Do Not Archive

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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Upfront I admit that know NOTHING about military aircraft ...



But ...



I've watched military jets landing and takeoff and it seems 

like they raise the nose so high on takeoff and flare so high on 

landing that there's just no way they COULD be taildraggers - 

the tailwheel would impact the runway long before the mains did 

. so ... not sure about your reasoning there.



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 At 06:06 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

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 >Long ago, my instructor explained that the nosewheel was there for only

 >one purpose - to hold the nose up when the airplane was parked, and it

 >should be landed accordingly.  That's probably what caused me to spend

 >the rest of my flying life in taildraggers!

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 >Dave B    -6 So Cal

 >Can't trust those nosewheels!

 

 That probably explains why all commercial airliners and military

 aircraft are taildraggers.

 

 Ron Lee

 

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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Lets see..... the Jet Blue's nose gear was locked 90 degrees sideways. Skid 

& gouge marks were right down the center line. Turn a tail wheel 90 degrees 

and lock it in place.  AHHHH.... BUT 90 digress would better than say...45 

degrees.   8*)  Kabong  HRII N561FS Do Not Archive...All in good fun 

guys...guys...ah come on guys....



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		   Upfront I admit that know NOTHING about military aircraft ...



 But ...



 I've watched military jets landing and takeoff and it seems

 like they raise the nose so high on takeoff and flare so high on

 landing that there's just no way they COULD be taildraggers -

 the tailwheel would impact the runway long before the mains did

 .. so ... not sure about your reasoning there.

rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Where do training wheels go??? Thats right, in the back!



JOHN STARN <jhstarn(at)verizon.net> wrote:  



Lets see..... the Jet Blue's nose gear was locked 90 degrees sideways. Skid 

& gouge marks were right down the center line. Turn a tail wheel 90 degrees 

and lock it in place. AHHHH.... BUT 90 digress would better than say...45 

degrees. 8*) Kabong HRII N561FS Do Not Archive...All in good fun 

guys...guys...ah come on guys....



 	  Quote: 	
		   Upfront I admit that know NOTHING about military aircraft ...



 But ...



 I've watched military jets landing and takeoff and it seems

 like they raise the nose so high on takeoff and flare so high on

 landing that there's just no way they COULD be taildraggers -

 the tailwheel would impact the runway long before the mains did

 .. so ... not sure about your reasoning there.


	






			

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T.gummo(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Tailwheel went away with introduction of jet engines and afterburners.

The F-4 had its engines 2 degrees down in the rear.

Any extended engine runs or afterburner use on the ground melted any asphalt 

and was very hard on concrete behind the aircraft.  A tailwheel jet will be 

very hard on any surface.

There was no need for prop clearance either.

I am sure there are "real" reasons but I don't know them.  



Tom "GummiBear" Gummo

Wild Weasel #1573

USAF, Major Retired

http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html



Apple Valley, CA

Harmon Rocket-II

N561FS - 270 hours - Still big smile

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klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Dear Gerry,



I think Dave was diagnosed with the "I missed the landing gear progress" syndrome that no one who is dragging its tail wants to admit!  But I do admit, the TD's sure look cute on the ground though!



Flame Suit is on, ...I am good to go for the firework (...and for a lil'xcytmnt?)



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

Ya'll mean like the Me-262 that was first built as a taildragger but was 

changed in production models because the downward jet blast ruined the 

concrete & asphalt surface quicker than it could be repaired. They needed 

something other than an airplane that melted & torn up taxi & runways. With 

the 8th airforce and the early 262's destroying  runways, they picked the 

tail up & were able to off the ground to go after the B-17's and maybe have 

a place to land an hour later.   I watch "Wings" on TV.  KABONG Do Not 

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jmsears(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: RV-List:keep the wieght off Nosewheel

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		   Keep the weight off the nose wheel as much as possible it's not made to

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		   it. Saw a 6A with chevy v6 fold nose gear over last week end.


	


The nose gears on Van's designs can take quite a beating and keep doing

their jobs.  I still have the original smaller diameter nose gear on my

RV-6A and haven't seen any cracks in it, yet.  I also land on a grass strip,

quite often.  I know the nose gear takes a beating, even though I try to

keep the nose gear light.  Since I'm far from being the perfect pilot, I'm

sure the nose gear on mine has had to perform well, at times.  



No nose gear can take the punishment that some of us put them through.  I've

seen nose gears damaged in Cessnas when pilots tried driving the nose gear

into the ground at landing.  It's not a pretty sight and is costly to

repair.  I've also seen the results of a bad landing in a RV-6A.  That, too,

was costly to repair.  In each case, it was the pilot at fault, not the

design.



The Grummans-Americans were touted as having weak nose gears, as well.  I

almost didn't buy one because of the stories my friends told me about them;

but, I finally decided to ignore them and bought one, anyway.  However, I

must admit that mine had been damaged some time in the past, which supported

their stories.  I found the nose gear on my GA AA-5A Cheetah to be more than

adequate.   I never had a problem with the nose gear in the nine years I

owned the airplane.  A friend of mine bought it when I started flying

Scooter.  He and his partner had no problems with it, either; but, the guy

who bought his two place TR-2 tore out the nose gear almost as soon as he

got it home.  Since the TR-2 had a lot of time on it with no gear damage,

I'd say it was the pilot's lack of experience in that type aircraft that did

it in.  Guess what.  Our RVs are almost identical in size to those little

fellas.  



If one uses the proper techniques for landing any nose geared airplane, I

believe one will have no more problems with a RV landing gear than with any

other.   It's a lot stouter looking than some of nose gears I've seen on

other experimentals.  Some I wouldn't consider landing on grass because they

look so weak.  Heck, some look so weak I'd be afraid to land them on a hard

surface!  



Jim Sears in KY

RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)

EAA Tech Counselor

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