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Gig Giacona
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 Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: Re: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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| psm(at)att.net wrote: | Hi Gig,
For some reason you seem to want to make this a personal issue. It
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Not personal at all. I just don't follow your logic.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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Hello Listers Under Seige,
Tommorrow I head to my airport to do some work on my Jabiru 3300 powered Zenith Zodiac CH601XL that I built and have been flying for 250 satisfying and rewarding hours. Â I need to finish work on some cooling issues regarding my engine installation and then to be safe I'm going to recheck my cable tensions throughout the airplane and upon a complete walk around inspection; I'm going flying to ascertain whether my "tweaks" to my cooling baffles prove to control my CHT's a bit better.
When I bought my kit I trusted the expertise of Zenith and Chris Heintz, I still do; remember that this father has sons that fly his creations on a regular basis and whose livelihoods are derived from his excellent handy work.  I followed the instructions to the "T" and I know that doesn't guarantee my safety, because I built it , I'm human and we all do make mistakes.  However, I realize that I have always handled any aircraft that I flew with kid gloves and a fair amount of respect, just my nature I guess.  Moreover, I always listen to and attracted to learned people with reasoned and sound judgement;  Keep training with good instructors, keep company with good pilots who exercise good judgement and skills and stay away from those that "hanger fly" their exploits in a boastful and prideful way.  Even though I'm a lowly private pilot I think I've been able to accumulate close to 900 hours of accident free flying in 23 years due to the fact that I never try to put myself in a position where I have to second guess myself.  I don't enjoy self imposed stomach aches if you catch my drift.  I believe in staying proficient and that building, maintaining and flying my own aircraft has made me a better and safer pilot in th elong run.  I know my bird inside and out!
So until that day comes when the authorities decide to ground me or my airplane I'm going to do my best to exercise my priviledges as an airman in a safe and respectful manner.  As they say more will be revealed and I refuse to live in the wreakage of the future! I won't even begin to challenge any of the prognosticators, arm chair aerodynamacists and nay sayers in this NTSB matter:  Anger, frustration and lack of accurate information is fueling a climate of fear and mistrust amongst us. Without a doubt I want an pinpoint and relative answer to these unfortunate accidents, I have over 1500 hours in 3 years of building at a personal expense of $58,000.00 in my airplane which doesn't include me and my Fathers/building partners labor accounted for: Like most people, I am very keen to know the truth one way or another, but I will wait for a final decision from the FAA ( if there is one?) and continue to enjoy one of the greatest privilidges a person can enjoy in this life and in this country.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jeff Paris N196ZP Kit# 6-4839
Long Distance Service Click here to get great long distance service for less! Click Here For More Information
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tiethoff
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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Dear Jeff, I couldn't agree more !
From: Jeffrey J Paris (jeffrey-j-paris(at)excite.com)
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:14 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US
Hello Listers Under Seige,
Tommorrow I head to my airport to do some work on my Jabiru 3300 powered Zenith Zodiac CH601XL that I built and have been flying for 250 satisfying and rewarding hours. I need to finish work on some cooling issues regarding my engine installation and then to be safe I'm going to recheck my cable tensions throughout the airplane and upon a complete walk around inspection; I'm going flying to ascertain whether my "tweaks" to my cooling baffles prove to control my CHT's a bit better.
When I bought my kit I trusted the expertise of Zenith and Chris Heintz, I still do; remember that this father has sons that fly his creations on a regular basis and whose livelihoods are derived from his excellent handy work. I followed the instructions to the "T" and I know that doesn't guarantee my safety, because I built it , I'm human and we all do make mistakes. However, I realize that I have always handled any aircraft that I flew with kid gloves and a fair amount of respect, just my nature I guess. Moreover, I always listen to and attracted to learned people with reasoned and sound judgement; Keep training with good instructors, keep company with good pilots who exercise good judgement and skills and stay away from those that "hanger fly" their exploits in a boastful and prideful way. Even though I'm a lowly private pilot I think I've been able to accumulate close to 900 hours of accident free flying in 23 years due to the fact that I never try to put myself in a position where I have to second guess myself. I don't enjoy self imposed stomach aches if you catch my drift. I believe in staying proficient and that building, maintaining and flying my own aircraft has made me a better and safer pilot in th elong run. I know my bird inside and out!
So until that day comes when the authorities decide to ground me or my airplane I'm going to do my best to exercise my priviledges as an airman in a safe and respectful manner. As they say more will be revealed and I refuse to live in the wreakage of the future! I won't even begin to challenge any of the prognosticators, arm chair aerodynamacists and nay sayers in this NTSB matter: Anger, frustration and lack of accurate information is fueling a climate of fear and mistrust amongst us. Without a doubt I want an pinpoint and relative answer to these unfortunate accidents, I have over 1500 hours in 3 years of building at a personal expense of $58,000.00 in my airplane which doesn't include me and my Fathers/building partners labor accounted for: Like most people, I am very keen to know the truth one way or another, but I will wait for a final decision from the FAA ( if there is one?) and continue to enjoy one of the greatest privilidges a person can enjoy in this life and in this country.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jeff Paris N196ZP Kit# 6-4839
Long Distance Service Click here to get great long distance service for less! Click Here For More Information [quote][b]
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Scotsman
Joined: 27 Aug 2007
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Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: Re: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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Are there other aircraft where it is commonly recommended that you check cable tensions before every flight?
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Juan Vega Jr
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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all planes with cables are regularly tensioned. ASk you local A&P.
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Juan Vega Jr
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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Hans
kiss my A__
Do Not archive
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Larry Webber
Joined: 05 Jun 2008
Posts: 63
Location: West Kingston Rhode Island
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US |
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Hi Jeff great to see how far along you are. . looks great.
keep us posted
Larry Webber 601xl / corvair chugger
Date: Fri C 17 Apr 2009 17:14:23 -0400
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
From: jeffrey-j-paris(at)excite.com
Subject: Re: Re: NTSB recommends grounding of 601XLs in US
Hello Listers Under Seige C
Tommorrow I head to my airport to do some work on my Jabiru 3300 powered Zenith Zodiac CH601XL that I built and have been flying for 250 satisfying and rewarding hours. I need to finish work on some cooling issues regarding my engine installation and then to be safe I'm going to recheck my cable tensions throughout the airplane and upon a complete walk around inspection; I'm going flying to ascertain whether my "tweaks" to my cooling baffles prove to control my CHT's a bit better.
When I bought my kit I trusted the expertise of Zenith and Chris Heintz C I still do; remember that this father has sons that fly his creations on a regular basis and whose livelihoods are derived from his excellent handy work. I followed the instructions to the "T" and I know that doesn't guarantee my safety C because I built it C I'm human and we all do make mistakes. However C I realize that I have always handled any aircraft that I flew with kid gloves and a fair amount of respect C just my nature I guess. Moreover C I always listen to and attracted to learned people with reasoned and sound judgement; Keep training with good instructors C keep company with good pilots who exercise good judgement and skills and stay away from those that "hanger fly" their exploits in a boastful and prideful way. Even though I'm a lowly private pilot I think I've been able to accumulate close to 900 hours of accident free flying in 23 years due to the fact that I never try to put myself in a position where I have to second guess myself. I don't enjoy self imposed stomach aches if you catch my drift. I believe in staying proficient and that building C maintaining and flying my own aircraft has made me a better and safer pilot in th elong run. I know my bird inside and out!
So until that day comes when the authorities decide to ground me or my airplane I'm going to do my best to exercise my priviledges as an airman in a safe and respectful manner. As they say more will be revealed and I refuse to live in the wreakage of the future! I won't even begin to challenge any of the prognosticators C arm chair aerodynamacists and nay sayers in this NTSB matter: Anger C frustration and lack of accurate information is fueling a climate of fear and mistrust amongst us. Without a doubt I want an pinpoint and relative answer to these unfortunate accidents C I have over 1500 hours in 3 years of building at a personal expense of $58 C000.00 in my airplane which doesn't include me and my Fathers/building partners labor accounted for: Like most people C I am very keen to know the truth one way or another C but I will wait for a final decision from the FAA ( if there is one?) and continue to enjoy one of the greatest privilidges a person can enjoy in this life and in this country.
Respectfully Submitted C
Jeff Paris N196ZP Kit# 6-4839
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