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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: Tool Kit

Deke,



I think if I were looking for a light weight Tool bag, the first place I 

would look is my wife's traveling cosmetics bag.  Being a flight attendant, 

she takes everything and trys to travel light.  This might sound funny but 

is meant to be serious - at least to the point of big pink flowers on the 

"tool" bag.



Lowell

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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Tool Kit

Thanks Paul.  Your input is always welcome.  See below:



Rags are a given.  Always in the airplane anyway.

Can't see the value of wd40

Clamptite would be a duplication of the pliers/leatherman

Already have the Leatherman and it's very handy to have.

Cell phone is always with me and I charge it every night.  On an overnight 

trip I have a charger in my ditty bag.

Spark plugs probably are over kill, until you need one.



Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."

- Joseph Joubert



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 Been discussed but your new list left off.



 2 shop rags

 smallest available (4 oz?) can of WD-40

 your small clamptite for that safety wire



 Watch for unnecessary duplicity. Your Leatherman might have the wire 

 cutter function

 and part of the screw driver collection. Since you are committed to using 

 a bag for

 tools, I don't see the need for an overpriced Leatherman. Select just the 

 tools you

 need. I'm not too fond of combination screwdrivers either. I think you can 

 make do

 with a single phillips and a wedge blade. The wedge blade doubles as a pry 

 bar which I

 find to be needed frequently. I would be easily dissuaded on this if you 

 have torx,

 squares, allen and others on your plane. I have a screwdriver made by 

 Stanley I got at

 Wal-Mart with a set of bits that included all the torx, phillips, allen, 

 square tip

 and wedge tip bits I need in a little hard plastic snap holder. You don't 

 have to dump

 all the bits out in a pile and sort through it until you find the one you 

 want. You

 you can see each tip. The driver is actually 1/4" drive with a coupler for 

 the bits.

 The shop rags are probably the most often used items. Any oil spill you 

 don't want

 streaking the length of your plane, cleaning a giant squashed bug off the 

 windshield

 you got taxiing right at dusk or that nasty glob of grease you picked up 

 near a fuel

 island on a tire or anything you need to wipe to see if you have stopped a 

 leak.



 Make sure you have what it takes to charge your cell phone from your 

 plane's

 electrical system too. Cell phone is especially good for solving those 

 nagging

 'miscellaneous' repair problems. The ones that give you a headache unless 

 you can fix

 them at home.



 You really think extra spark plugs are necessary for a 4 stroke engine? I 

 don't.



> Some sort of combination screwdriver

>

> Light weight box cutter

>

> Duct tape, small roll. Could be also be wrapped around box cutter or 

> screw driver.

>

> Silicone Rescue Tape...optional

>

> 1/4" compact socket set - optional

>

> Small wire cutters -- optional

>

> 6" crescent type wrench

>

> 6" vice grips or equivalent

>

> 8 feet 18g insulated wire

>

> Small roll safety wire .032

>

> Tie wraps of various sizes

>

> Leatherman or equivalent

>

> Continuity tester

>

> Spark plug wrench

>

> Extra spark plugs

>

> Canvas or Cordura type bag.

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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: Tool Kit

Thanks, Lowell.  I'll see what I can find.  Not sure though if a cosmetics 

bag would be durable enough, but I'm keeping an open mind.  Can I get one in 

camo?  

Deke

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 Deke,



 I think if I were looking for a light weight Tool bag, the first place I 

 would look is my wife's traveling cosmetics bag.  Being a flight 

 attendant, she takes everything and trys to travel light.  This might 

 sound funny but is meant to be serious - at least to the point of big pink 

 flowers on the "tool" bag.



 Lowell

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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Tool Kit

The black canvas reusable shopping bags that Wal Mart sells are great !  They are light, strong, durable, and only cost a dollar.  Even with a screwdriver, you would have a hard time poking a hole through one, and they are the perfect size to wrap around a portable tool kit.



Mike

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Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S

n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Tool Kit

A ziploc bag with a few bandages, and some handy wipes is always a good

toolkit addition.



Jeff

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: Tool Kit

That kinda transitions to a "survival" kit, which I intend to research next. 

Thanks.

Deke Morisse

Mikado Michigan

S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."

- Joseph Joubert



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Scrap the tie wraps and put in a small length of string... nylon would be good....  You will be able to use the string for everything to holding up shelters to tourniquets if necessary.  You w0uld even be able to stitch up a wing with it if you had to.  Your leatherman could make the holes  wax from a candle would make the end of the string stiff enough to push through the holes and the tape would seal the repair until you get home.  String can also be used to do just about anything tie wraps can do only more.  

Noel  

       

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer

 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:49 AM

 To: Kitfox List

 Subject: Tool Kit  

  

  

     

I've gone through my tool kit list, added a few things and thrown out a few others.  The ones labeled optional may or may not be added.  I need to start looking around for a tool bag.  Maybe Home Depot.  Most of the other things I already have on hand.  

If anyone has any comments, pro or con, don't hesitate to post them.  There was one time when I wish I would have had this tool kit and I suspect that there will be another time one day and I want to be prepared, whether for me or to help out someone I'm flying with.  

Deke  

   

Some sort of combination screwdriver  

Light weight box cutter  

Duct tape, small roll. Could be also be wrapped around box cutter or screw driver.  

Silicone Rescue Tape...optional  

1/4" compact socket set – optional  

Small wire cutters -- optional  

6" crescent type wrench  

6" vice grips or equivalent  

8 feet 18g insulated wire  

Small roll safety wire .032  

Tie wraps of various sizes   

Leatherman or equivalent  

Continuity tester  

Spark plug wrench  

Extra spark plugs  

Canvas or Cordura type bag.  

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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Jeez, Deke, I hadn't heard you were switching to Jabiru power.  : )



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs

Sensenich 62x46

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Status: flying

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On Apr 21, 2009, at 8:18 AM, fox5flyer wrote:

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		    There was one time when I wish I would have had this tool kit and  

 I suspect that there will be another time one day and I want to be  

 prepared



 Deke

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Taking that thought a step further, how about a length of rib lacing  

cord? It's already got the wax impregnated in it. I used it to bundle  

some of the wires in my plane, so if I forgot to take it along with  

me, I could just rob some from the plane and not tell the FAA that  

I've now got some wires dangling. : )



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs

Sensenich 62x46

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Status: flying





On Apr 21, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:



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		   Scrap the tie wraps and put in a small length of string... nylon  

 would be good....  You will be able to use the string for  

 everything to holding up shelters to tourniquets if necessary.  You  

 w0uld even be able to stitch up a wing with it if you had to.  Your  

 leatherman could make the holes  wax from a candle would make the  

 end of the string stiff enough to push through the holes and the  

 tape would seal the repair until you get home.  String can also be  

 used to do just about anything tie wraps can do only more.



 Noel

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Great idea.  Wax chord could also be used to start a fire or floss your

teeth.   Seriously wax chord was used extensively in aircraft before the

advent of nylon tie wraps.  I have a beef with the tie wraps and that is

when cropped if not rounded they will gash open hands reaching into an

engine compartment tugging on things to check they are solid.



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

No, not yet anyway.  What happened was shortly after my annual I failed to 

completely tighten one of the fittings on the header tank and the fuel smell 

made me land at the nearest airport where I had to borrow tools and go to 

town for tie wraps because it required removing the seat to get at the 

fittings.  It didn't start leaking until midway through the second flight. 

Not a real big deal, but would have been much easier if I'd had a tool kit 

with me.  Because of that I plan to have enough tie wraps to replace the 

seat should it become necessary.  They weight next to nothing and don't take 

up much space.

When is that wind going to stop blowing?

Deke

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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

To Lynn and Noel.  Good one.  Already added to my list!  

Thanks

do not archive

Deke



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peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Posts: 224
Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

6 pack of Miller Light

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Leander, TX
Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Why didn't I think of that one???



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
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peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Posts: 224
Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

6 pack was the only tool on my list.



After drinking a 6 pack ya can't fly anyway so you don't need tools.



Pete



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Leander, TX
Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

When I attended an Electrical and Avionics weekend workshop, one of  

the great things I took away from there was the use of a pair of  

really close cutters (available from an electronics store) that  

almost eliminate that problem. They also suggested the use of  

fingernail clippers to trim the tie wraps close.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs

Sensenich 62x46

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Status: flying





On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:



[quote] 



 Great idea.  Wax chord could also be used to start a fire or floss  

 your

 teeth.   Seriously wax chord was used extensively in aircraft  

 before the

 advent of nylon tie wraps.  I have a beef with the tie wraps and  

 that is

 when cropped if not rounded they will gash open hands reaching into an

 engine compartment tugging on things to check they are solid.



 Noel



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

Speaking of seat security, mine is held in place by 4 hose  

clamps...there used to be 8, but that seemed like overkill, so I  

reduced the number.



And also speaking of seat security, I'm glad mine is held in position  

so well, as the following incident will attest. I wrote this up the  

other day and sent to a few folks, and I'll paste it here:

********************

I had my first "zero gravity" encounter yesterday. I had just left  

the Saturday morning fly-in at a close-by field, and came back to  

buzz the field. I was crankin' along pretty good....in the yellow  

band (108 mph+)....and when I got within a safe distance from the  

trees on the north end of the field, I yanked it back, saw nothin'  

but sky, then pushed the nose down. At that point, all my charts, a  

jacket, and other stuff hit the cabin roof. That was pretty cool, and  

when I got it leveled out and was heading for home, I noticed that a  

screwdriver that I keep on the floor of the plane was laying between  

my legs on the seat. That's a pretty good display of zero gravity in  

my book. Good thing I had the belts tight, and shoulder straps.

*********************

One of the guys who was at the field said later that I was angled up  

at about 45 degrees, but I could have sworn it was straight up or  

even over on its back. I don't intend on making a career out of doing  

this sort of thing, but it's nice to know the Kitfox will hold up (?)  

to such occasional outbursts of exuberance on the part of the pilot.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 632.8 hrs

Sensenich 62x46

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Status: flying





On Apr 21, 2009, at 8:12 PM, fox5flyer wrote:



[quote] 

 <fox5flyer(at)idealwifi.net>



 No, not yet anyway.  What happened was shortly after my annual I  

 failed to completely tighten one of the fittings on the header tank  

 and the fuel smell made me land at the nearest airport where I had  

 to borrow tools and go to town for tie wraps because it required  

 removing the seat to get at the fittings.  It didn't start leaking  

 until midway through the second flight. Not a real big deal, but  

 would have been much easier if I'd had a tool kit with me.  Because  

 of that I plan to have enough tie wraps to replace the seat should  

 it become necessary.  They weight next to nothing and don't take up  

 much space.

 When is that wind going to stop blowing?

 Deke

 do not archive



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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: Tool Kit

A few swipes with a piece of sandpaper over the cut ends of the tie wrap

works wonders too.  Problem is most people just don't take the time to do

it.  Helicopter crews do it right.  They pretty well go over every job with

a piece of loose cloth.. if the cloth grabs an where it is fixed so not to.

Even the cotter pins they install are done in such a way so you can wipe

them down without hooking the cloth.



Noel



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Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:11 am Post subject: Tool Kit

Nah, Guiness.





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Boilermaker2000

Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 11
Location: West Lafayette, IN

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Tool Kit

 	  Fox5flyer wrote: 	
		  Nah, Guiness. 	




Not a bad idea.  It meets the duel purpose criteria;drink and/or motor oil.

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