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 Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: EFIS |
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To those who are installing an EFIS in their panel, what backup instruments
are you installing / considering.
Lowell
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darinh
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: Re: EFIS |
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Lowell,
I put in a backup ASI and altimeter. I guess you could also argue a turn coordinator would be good but I really only fly day VFR anyway so if I know my altitude and airspeed, I am good to go.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: EFIS |
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I'm using the Grand Rapids EIS, but an early version. It contains all of
the engine instruments including OAT, engine hours, and more, plus parameter
alarm. It puts a lot of instruments in a small spot on the panel so I
could have a large glove box for charts, CDs, etc. Never had a problem with
it.
What I have on the panel is Airspeed, TC, Altimeter, Artificial Horizon,
Vertical Speed. Also have a Fuel Flow meter and G meter, but that could
easily be eliminated as it's never had a useful purpose other than to tell
me how bad my landings are.
Most of the EFIS units I've perused have way too many things crammed into a
small screen for me to interpret under pressure. Just my opinion.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 430+ TT
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CDE2fly(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: EFIS |
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Lowell - I've got airspeed, altimeter, vertical speed, and an electric turn coordinator for redundancy to a Dynon D-100 in my Model 7(see attached photo) . I've got 11 hours on the airplane and find myself glancing more and more at the Dynon. It's the first airplane I've had with an EFIS and I must say I'm very impressed with it!
Chris
Model 7, 912S
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nail13zg(at)centurytel.ne
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: EFIS |
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I am using the Dynon EFIS with the Garmin 296's flight instrument page for
backup.
Trey Moran
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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: EFIS |
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Thanks to all who have responded to my question. I have lots of ideas and
time will tell if I go with an EFIS or my panel looks traditional and old
fashioned.
Lowell
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JetPilot
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: EFIS |
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I am installing a Grand Rapids EFIS in my Kitfox 7 SS. I will not be putting any backup instruments in it. I do not plan to fly IFR, and even if I lost the entire EFIS, anyone with a little skill and experience should be able to easily land a light plane like a Kitfox VFR with no instruments. A properly installed EFIS system is very reliable, probably more reliable than a panel full of old school vacuum driven Gyros, etc.... I have been flying EFIS airplanes thousands of hours for the last 10 years, EFIS is clearly superior to analog gages..
In a pinch, GPS makes a great backup for airspeed indicator. I know it reads ground speed, but I always have a pretty good idea of where the wind is coming from and how strong when I land, easy enough to get it within a few MPH if one has no skills and is not capable of doing a landing without airspeed 
If I just had to have a backup, it would be a single airspeed indicator... Nothing else. For what its worth, I have seen several failures of mechanical airspeed indicators, but never an airspeed failure on an EFIS... In the end, its just a question if a builder is open minded enough to embrace new and better technology, or if he is so stuck in old ways, that he must have inferior analog gages...
Mike
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