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marenyi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg



There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:

  

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f



Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.

  

Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Eric

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

EricFWIW  I saw a retractable gear on a mono-Lotus float installation once. I think they said a Jimmy Lee made it?  Someone on the List will know I'm sure. It used bicycle-chains to raise & lower the wheels, and worked well. The wheels did contact the float tho. Possibly a hinged gearleg that would let the wheels swing up, somewhat like the SeaBee? I'm told the Lotus mono can be landed on grass, wheels-up, without damage.

I was more concerned with the wing-float attachments. I think they'd damage the wing before too long. 

Ideally, your wingtips could rotate down & become wing-floats, as in  the PBY, but that's a lot of complexity & weight & would have to be aerodynamic too. Maybe retractable sponsons would be easier. 

I think you'll be spending some time at the drawing-board! --

good luck,

Russ K

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On Oct 5, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Eric Marenyi wrote:

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		  I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg



There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f



Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.

 

Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Eric

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

That is my plane. Jim Lee built in 1993 and I refurbished it. It is the 2nd Kolb amphib that I have owned...It is the ultimate Kolb Bushplane. Although I  have only owned two of these monofloat kolbs C I have helped build several.. I have info and pics for most kolbs on monofloats...firestars C MkIII's C Extras C etc...I would be happy to answer any questions on it. 

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Date: Tue C 6 Oct 2009 10:59:54 -0400

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Eric FWIW  I saw a retractable gear on a mono-Lotus float installation once. I think they said a Jimmy Lee made it?  Someone on the List will know I'm sure. It used bicycle-chains to raise & lower the wheels C and worked well. The wheels did contact the float tho. Possibly a hinged gearleg that would let the wheels swing up C somewhat like the SeaBee? I'm told the Lotus mono can be landed on grass C wheels-up C without damage.

 I was more concerned with the wing-float attachments. I think they'd damage the wing before too long. 

 Ideally C your wingtips could rotate down & become wing-floats C as in  the PBY C but that's a lot of complexity & weight & would have to be aerodynamic too. Maybe retractable sponsons would be easier. 

 I think you'll be spending some time at the drawing-board! --

 good luck C

 Russ K

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 On Oct 5 C 2009 C at 8:46 PM C Eric Marenyi wrote:

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		  I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed C its retractable gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg

There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f

Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float C but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks C

Eric

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

Russ ,I had my KXP on Full Lotus floats with retractable gear that was on hinges and folded up with long bungi cord power ,these came from Full Lotus and they still sell them I believe they cost over 3000 dollars!I bought them second hand for about 1300 including the float . They worked great bu I never landed on the runway with the gear down I only used them taxing in and out of the lake I flew out of.they worked great for that.Chris

  

  

  

  

Chris Davis

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Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 10:59:54 AM

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Eric  FWIW  I saw a retractable gear on a mono-Lotus float installation once. I think they said a Jimmy Lee made it?  Someone on the List will know I'm sure. It used bicycle-chains to raise & lower the wheels, and worked well. The wheels did contact the float tho. Possibly a hinged gearleg that would let the wheels swing up, somewhat like the SeaBee? I'm told the Lotus mono can be landed on grass, wheels-up, without damage.

 I was more concerned with the wing-float attachments. I think they'd damage the wing before too long. 

 Ideally, your wingtips could rotate down & become wing-floats, as in  the PBY, but that's a lot of complexity & weight & would have to be aerodynamic too. Maybe retractable sponsons would be easier. 

 I think you'll be spending some time at the drawing-board! --

 good luck,

 Russ K

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 On Oct 5, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Eric Marenyi wrote:

 [quote]I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg



There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:



http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f



Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.



Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Eric

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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

Russ, I forgot to say ,I attached my Sponsons with a short piece of tube tha went to the wing fold stub that was on the wing and strong as it was built to support the entire wing then I attached stays to the leading edge and the wingtip,it worked great and never caused any problem! just my 2 cents.  Chris

 

Chris Davis

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Disabled from crash building Firefly  



 

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Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 10:59:54 AM

Subject: Re: Floats on Firestar II



Eric  FWIW  I saw a retractable gear on a mono-Lotus float installation once. I think they said a Jimmy Lee made it?  Someone on the List will know I'm sure. It used bicycle-chains to raise & lower the wheels, and worked well. The wheels did contact the float tho. Possibly a hinged gearleg that would let the wheels swing up, somewhat like the SeaBee? I'm told the Lotus mono can be landed on grass, wheels-up, without damage.

 I was more concerned with the wing-float attachments. I think they'd damage the wing before too long. 

 Ideally, your wingtips could rotate down & become wing-floats, as in  the PBY, but that's a lot of complexity & weight & would have to be aerodynamic too. Maybe retractable sponsons would be easier. 

 I think you'll be spending some time at the drawing-board! --

 good luck,

 Russ K

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 On Oct 5, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Eric Marenyi wrote:

 [quote]I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg



There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:



http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f



Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.



Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Eric

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: Floats on Firestar II

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly 



 

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 Russ ,I had my KXP on Full Lotus floats with retractable gear that was on hinges and folded up with long bungi cord power ,these came from Full Lotus and they still sell them I believe they cost over 3000 dollars!I bought them second hand for about 1300 including the float . They worked great bu I never landed on the runway with the gear down I only used them taxing in and out of the lake I flew out of.they worked great for that.Chris

  

  

  

  

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly  



 

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To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 10:59:54 AM

Subject: Re: Floats on Firestar II



Eric  FWIW  I saw a retractable gear on a mono-Lotus float installation once. I think they said a Jimmy Lee made it?  Someone on the List will know I'm sure. It used bicycle-chains to raise & lower the wheels, and worked well. The wheels did contact the float tho. Possibly a hinged gearleg that would let the wheels swing up, somewhat like the SeaBee? I'm told the Lotus mono can be landed on grass, wheels-up, without damage.

 I was more concerned with the wing-float attachments. I think they'd damage the wing before too long. 

 Ideally, your wingtips could rotate down & become wing-floats, as in  the PBY, but that's a lot of complexity & weight & would have to be aerodynamic too. Maybe retractable sponsons would be easier. 

 I think you'll be spending some time at the drawing-board! --

 good luck,

 Russ K

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 On Oct 5, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Eric Marenyi wrote:

 [quote]I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg



There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:



http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f



Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.



Any help is appreciated.



Thanks,

Eric

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