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DanM

Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 64
Location: Kingsburg, Calif.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:18 am Post subject: Leaky Header tank

I may need to change my header tank in my model iv because of a problem leak at the bottom fitting bushing. I think the threads were tapped to deep or I may have tightened to much.  My question; is the rotational molded tank from Kitfox the way to go or are there other options? Does the Kitfox tank have the brass fitting molded in?



 



Thanks for your opinions in advance, this problem is holding up my first flight.

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Kitfox IV
Jabiru 2200 SN 1311 , 59.7 hours
Sensenich 62x46
N443DM

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: Leaky Header tank

At 09:18 AM 10/27/2009, you wrote:

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		  My question; is the rotational molded tank from Kitfox the way to go 

or are there other options? Does the Kitfox tank have the brass 

fitting molded in?


	


Dan,

         It's OK. There are bosses molded in for some of the 

hardware, but not all, but there are no threads molded in. If you do 

buy one, I recommend installing brass adapters for every fitting and 

installing them with 2-part polysulfide sealant. That way you can 

install and remove fittings without exercising the threads in the 

polyethylene. Some look for larger header tanks. I think Murle 

Williams still makes an aluminum one.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting

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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: Leaky Header tank

Dan, Have you tried using thread sealer, the gasoline resistant, red, hard drying type. It will fill threads that are fairly large. It is hard to get threads to seal in plastic tanks without over tightening. I have had good luck with the above type of sealer on loose threads in the plastic header tank you are talking about..

   

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, OL

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:18 AM, DanM <danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com (danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com)> wrote:

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I may need to change my header tank in my model iv because of a problem leak at the bottom fitting bushing. I think the threads were tapped to deep or I may have tightened to much.  My question; is the rotational molded tank from Kitfox the way to go or are there other options? Does the Kitfox tank have the brass fitting molded in?

 

Thanks for your opinions in advance, this problem is holding up my first flight.



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Kitfox IV , Ready for 1st Flight

Jabiru 2200 , 2.0 hours

Sensenich 62x46

N443DM

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DanM

Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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Location: Kingsburg, Calif.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

thanks Pat, I've tried the liquid yellow type, it worked on all fittings except the bottom one. What's the Brand and product number for the stuff you are talking about?

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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: Leaky Header tank

We also offer an aluminum header tank.



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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Leaky Header tank

Ditto Pat and Guy's observations Dan. I drilled my header for a float-type low fuel sensor. Had to monkey with it for awhile until it stopped leaking. I used a fuel proof thread sealer to seal brass bushing to the poly. Sensor screws into the bushing. No leaks now.

  

 At one point I almost gave up on the tank, went so far as to purchase a new tank from Skystar. That one's in Pat's airplane now.

  

 Marco Menezes N99KX

Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3: 1 w/clutch

 

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Subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

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Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 2:04 PM



  Dan, Have you tried using thread sealer, the gasoline resistant, red, hard drying type. It will fill threads that are fairly large. It is hard to get threads to seal in plastic tanks without over tightening. I have had good luck with the above type of sealer on loose threads in the plastic header tank you are talking about..

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, OL

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:18 AM, DanM <danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com (danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com)> wrote:

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I may need to change my header tank in my model iv because of a problem leak at the bottom fitting bushing. I think the threads were tapped to deep or I may have tightened to much.  My question; is the rotational molded tank from Kitfox the way to go or are there other options? Does the Kitfox tank have the brass fitting molded in?



Thanks for your opinions in advance, this problem is holding up my first flight.



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Kitfox IV , Ready for 1st Flight

Jabiru 2200 , 2.0 hours

Sensenich 62x46

N443DM

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DanM

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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

Marco, what the brand and product number you used on the threads?



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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: Leaky Header tank

Dan, I will try to remember to look at the tube I have day after tomorrow at the hanger. I need a new tube. I'm almost out. You can find it at any automotive parts store or discount that sells automotive products. I think it is a Permatex product.

   

 Pat Reilly

 Model 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, DanM <danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com (danm(at)powerdesignelectric.com)> wrote:

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thanks Pat, I've tried the liquid yellow type, it worked on all fittings except the bottom one. What's the Brand and product number for the stuff you are talking about?



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Sensenich 62x46

N443DM

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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

I'm not Dan, but did you check out Fuel Lube?  Aircraft Spruce has it in tubes.

Tommy Walker in Alabama

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		  Marco, what the brand and product number you used on the threads?



Thanks

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DanM

Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 64
Location: Kingsburg, Calif.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

Problem fixed, installed a new Plated steel bushing (sharp threads) applied Permatex 9 AR Tack and Seal. Let it set a few days , no leaks to date. Thanks for all the responses.

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Sensenich 62x46
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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Leaky Header tank

Dan, Glad to hear Permatex worked for you. I finally looked at the sealer I used on the loose plastic header tank threads. It is Permatex 1BR fast drying fast setting. I'll find some of the 9 AR. I have another Permatex form a gasket soft setting product that I think should be used on gaskets. It doesn't seem to seal by it self.

   

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL 

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Problem fixed, installed a new Plated steel bushing (sharp threads) applied Permatex 9 AR Tack and Seal. Let it set a few days , no leaks to date. Thanks for all the responses.



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akflyer

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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Leaky Header tank

I got one of the header tanks from kitfox last year and the sealant that was on the bushing from KF started leaking about 5 hrs after I put fuel in it.  I drained it and used "fuel lube" (available at most FBO or AC Spruce) on all fittings and tightened them as much as I dared.  The header tank has been full of fuel and has not leaked in over a year now.

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Dick Maddux

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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: Leaky Header tank

TITE SEAL is another good product for sealing fuel/oil fittings. We have  used this product for years at our airport and it has never failed to do the  job. It too is available from Spruce. You could have it in 2 days Travis.

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