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The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007) states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: Bing Carby |
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No, didn’t on BMW Motorcycles either. 2200 Jab. in Alpi Pioneer has 340 hrs. no problems. Did you do the SCCA circuit in the
Fiftys ? Bob Haas N380BH.
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Subject: Bing Carby
The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007) states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
Chuck D.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: Bing Carby |
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Not me.
I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years, and in discussing this matter with the
folks at Bing, they said there is no test for a bad diaphragm, just
hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or cracks,
continue to use it.
And when you stop to think about it, what does two years really mean?
Two years of aging is one thing, two years at 200 hours per year for
one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for another.
That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that could be
done, rather than just arbitrarily change it.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Deiterich wrote:
| Quote: | The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
Chuck D.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: Bing Carby |
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Hi C
What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop?
Thanks C
Naftali.
| Quote: | From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Bing Carby
Date: Wed C 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Not me.
I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years C and in discussing this matter with the
folks at Bing C they said there is no test for a bad diaphragm C just
hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or cracks C
continue to use it.
And when you stop to think about it C what does two years really mean?
Two years of aging is one thing C two years at 200 hours per year for
one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for another.
That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that could be
done C rather than just arbitrarily change it.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 818.9 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 2 C 2009 C at 12:02 PM C Chuck Deiterich wrote:
> The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
> states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
> years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
> Chuck D.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: Bing Carby |
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I usually see about 2840-2860.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Naftali Horowitz wrote:
| Quote: | Hi,
What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop?
Thanks,
Naftali.
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500
> To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
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>
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
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> Not me.
> I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years, and in discussing this matter with
the
> folks at Bing, they said there is no test for a bad diaphragm, just
> hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or cracks,
> continue to use it.
> And when you stop to think about it, what does two years really
mean?
> Two years of aging is one thing, two years at 200 hours per year for
> one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for another.
> That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that
could be
> done, rather than just arbitrarily change it.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs
> Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying (and learning)
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Deiterich wrote:
>
> > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
> > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
> > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
> > Chuck D.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: Bing Carby |
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Did you get any RPM increase due to the Electroair ignition?
Is it with the Bing or injection?
Thanks C
Naftali
[quote] From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Bing Carby
Date: Thu C 3 Dec 2009 18:01:17 -0500
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
I usually see about 2840-2860.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 818.9 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 3 C 2009 C at 10:43 AM C Naftali Horowitz wrote:
> Hi C
> What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop?
> Thanks C
> Naftali.
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> > Date: Wed C 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500
> > To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > Not me.
> > I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years C and in discussing this matter with
> the
> > folks at Bing C they said there is no test for a bad diaphragm C just
> > hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or cracks C
> > continue to use it.
> > And when you stop to think about it C what does two years really
> mean?
> > Two years of aging is one thing C two years at 200 hours per year for
> > one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for another.
> > That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that
> could be
> > done C rather than just arbitrarily change it.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 818.9 hrs
> > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > Rotec TBI-40 injection
> > Status: flying (and learning)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 2 C 2009 C at 12:02 PM C Chuck Deiterich wrote:
> >
> > > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
> > > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
> > > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
> > > Chuck D.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:29 am Post subject: Bing Carby |
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No increase that I can really attribute to the Electroair ignition,
but I installed the ignition during an engine rebuild, so many things
were different after I reinstalled the engine. The main reason for
the ignition change was to get away from the (in my case) sloppy
rotors, and otherwise antiquated distributor-based ignition system.
(What modern engine uses distributors these days?) I also wanted to
have a system that was capable of advancing the ignition under
certain conditions, and retarding the ignition as well.
I am currently using the Rotec TBI-40 fuel metering system (Throttle
Body Injection), because I also wanted to be able to control the fuel
mixture while in flight. Here again, I felt that something a bit more
modern than the float-type carburetor was required (or in my case,
desired).
Some of the changes or decisions that I make are based on boredom...I
just need to be doing something different than just flying the plane
as it is. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 820.8 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:22 AM, Naftali Horowitz wrote:
| Quote: | Did you get any RPM increase due to the Electroair ignition?
Is it with the Bing or injection?
Thanks,
Naftali
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:01:17 -0500
> To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> I usually see about 2840-2860.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs
> Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying (and learning)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Naftali Horowitz wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop?
> > Thanks,
> > Naftali.
> >
> > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> > > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500
> > > To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
> > >
> > >
> > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > Not me.
> > > I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years, and in discussing this matter
with
> > the
> > > folks at Bing, they said there is no test for a bad
diaphragm, just
> > > hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or
cracks,
> > > continue to use it.
> > > And when you stop to think about it, what does two years really
> > mean?
> > > Two years of aging is one thing, two years at 200 hours per
year for
> > > one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for
another.
> > > That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that
> > could be
> > > done, rather than just arbitrarily change it.
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs
> > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > > Rotec TBI-40 injection
> > > Status: flying (and learning)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Deiterich wrote:
> > >
> > > > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
> > > > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
> > > > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
> > > > Chuck D.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: Bing Carby |
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Thanks Lynn for your thorough reply
Appreciate it C
Naftali.
[quote] From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Bing Carby
Date: Fri C 11 Dec 2009 06:26:23 -0500
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
No increase that I can really attribute to the Electroair ignition C
but I installed the ignition during an engine rebuild C so many things
were different after I reinstalled the engine. The main reason for
the ignition change was to get away from the (in my case) sloppy
rotors C and otherwise antiquated distributor-based ignition system.
(What modern engine uses distributors these days?) I also wanted to
have a system that was capable of advancing the ignition under
certain conditions C and retarding the ignition as well.
I am currently using the Rotec TBI-40 fuel metering system (Throttle
Body Injection) C because I also wanted to be able to control the fuel
mixture while in flight. Here again C I felt that something a bit more
modern than the float-type carburetor was required (or in my case C
desired).
Some of the changes or decisions that I make are based on boredom...I
just need to be doing something different than just flying the plane
as it is. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 820.8 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 11 C 2009 C at 2:22 AM C Naftali Horowitz wrote:
> Did you get any RPM increase due to the Electroair ignition?
> Is it with the Bing or injection?
> Thanks C
> Naftali
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> > Date: Thu C 3 Dec 2009 18:01:17 -0500
> > To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > I usually see about 2840-2860.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 818.9 hrs
> > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > Rotec TBI-40 injection
> > Status: flying (and learning)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 3 C 2009 C at 10:43 AM C Naftali Horowitz wrote:
> >
> > > Hi C
> > > What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop?
> > > Thanks C
> > > Naftali.
> > >
> > > > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > > > Subject: Re: Bing Carby
> > > > Date: Wed C 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500
> > > > To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
> > > >
> > > > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
> > > <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > > >
> > > > Not me.
> > > > I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years C and in discussing this matter
> with
> > > the
> > > > folks at Bing C they said there is no test for a bad
> diaphragm C just
> > > > hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or
> cracks C
> > > > continue to use it.
> > > > And when you stop to think about it C what does two years really
> > > mean?
> > > > Two years of aging is one thing C two years at 200 hours per
> year for
> > > > one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for
> another.
> > > > That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that
> > > could be
> > > > done C rather than just arbitrarily change it.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn Matteson
> > > > Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
> > > > Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 818.9 hrs
> > > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> > > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> > > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > > > Rotec TBI-40 injection
> > > > Status: flying (and learning)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 2 C 2009 C at 12:02 PM C Chuck Deiterich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007)
> > > > > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two
> > > > > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this?
> > > > > Chuck D.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: Bing Carby |
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You're very welcome.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 820.8 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Naftali Horowitz wrote:
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Appreciate it,
Naftali.
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