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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: Insurance

KFer"s, I'm ready for 1st flight. I am fortunate in that an EAA Flight Advisor test pilot that has 1st flighted 10 KF's lives here in Rockford. My question is what's best way to insure. I talked to EAA they gave me a quote from Falcon. The problem is the rep at EAA seems so short of time he isn't helpful in communicating exactly the extent of coverage. I spoke with Avemco and the girl there would have talked to me all day as long as I had valid questions. Avemco cost a little more which I am willing to pay for the level of service I got via phone. But their deductible is $1000 and Falcon's appears to be $100. I have less than 200 hrs total and less than 20 hrs taildragger  logged so I don't qualify for an EAA discount from Falcon. Anybody have suggestions? 

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Insurance

Pat, I talked directly with Falcon.  They are an insurance agent and will shop for the best price for you.  I had only 20 hrs tail wheel...all dual including 7hrs. Kitfox dual...and they got the best quote from AIG.



It was about $1300 before a 5% discount for AOPA members.  That was for $20,000 hull value, $100 deductible, and one Million with 100,000 per person liability.  Coverage from 1st flight.



It had a an exclusion to 10% of agreed value deductible and a liability during phase 1 limited to $500,000 and no liability for death or injury to passengers.  Good incentive to not bend the rules by having a passenger during phase 1.



That was three years ago. The premiums have gone down each year to $1124 this year.

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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:44 am Post subject: Insurance

Tom, Thanks for info. I tried calling Falcon direct in ST Louis as the rep at the EAA # was always busy. They refered me back to EAA. I see Falcon is in Kerrville TX. Did you talk with rep at EAA # or someone else? I have a quote the EAA rep faxed to me. It looks as if Falcon is the underwriting Co. I will try again to get answers about 1st flight and phase 1 testing coverage.

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 On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Tom Jones <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net (nahsikhs(at)elltel.net)> wrote:

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Pat, I talked directly with Falcon.  They are an insurance agent and will shop for the best price for you.  I had only 20 hrs tail wheel...all dual including 7hrs. Kitfox dual...and they got the best quote from AIG.

 

It was about $1300 before a 5% discount for AOPA members.  That was for $20,000 hull value, $100 deductible, and one Million with 100,000 per person liability.  Coverage from 1st flight.



It had a an exclusion to 10% of agreed value deductible and a liability during phase 1 limited to $500,000 and no liability for death or injury to passengers.  Good incentive to not bend the rules by having a passenger during phase 1.

 

That was three years ago. The premiums have gone down each year to $1124 this year.



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Tom Jones

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Insurance

Pat Reilly asked:

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		  Tom, Thanks for info. I tried calling Falcon direct in ST Louis as the rep at theï¿½EAA # was always busy. They refered me back to EAA. I see Falcon is in Kerrville TX. Did you talk with rep at EAA # or someone else?

	


Pat, I talked with the Kerrville, TX office.  The person that I deal with is Kyle Atchison.  Phone 830-257-1000.



I also could not get the EAA discount due to not enough tail wheel time.  The 5% discount for AOPA members I got with my original policy more that paid for the AOPA membership.

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Pat Reilly

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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: Insurance

Tom, Just hung up with EAA Falcon rep. Sounds like same coverage you have with AIG but it is with another Co. right down to the 5% AOPA discount.Â Â The pilot has toÂ have 10 hrs dual in a KF to be covered. My test pilot qualifies but the policy would be void if there was an accident with the 2 of us in the plane, and for him to give me lessons, and be insured,Â the plane has to have completed 1st phase, 40 Hrs. What I had hoped for was a combination of, after 1st flight, 1st phase andÂ dual lessonsÂ Â I have to talk to my test pilot and see what we can do. I wanted to avoid paying someone to fly 1st phase or flying uninsured liability wise. Nothing is ever easy when it comes to insurance.Â 

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Pat Reilly asked:



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		   Tom, Thanks for info. I tried calling Falcon direct in ST Louis as the rep at theï¿½EAA # was always busy. They refered me back to EAA. I see Falcon is in Kerrville TX. Did you talk with rep at EAA # or someone else?

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Pat, I talked with the Kerrville, TX office. Â The person that I deal with is Kyle Atchison. Â Phone 830-257-1000.



I also could not get the EAA discount due to not enough tail wheel time. Â The 5% discount for AOPA members I got with my original policy more that paid for the AOPA membership.

 

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: Insurance

At 06:36 PM 3/28/2010, you wrote:

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		  Avemco cost a little more which I am willing to pay for the level of 

service I got via phone. But their deductible is $1000 and Falcon's 

appears to be $100. I have less than 200 hrs total and less than 20 

hrs taildragger  logged so I don't qualify for an EAA discount from 

Falcon. Anybody have suggestions?


	


Pat,

         Interesting. My experience when I started was that I 

couldn't get Avemco because they required something like 25 hours 

time-in-type. I bought AIG through AOPA because they only required 1 

hour time-in-type which I was able to beg from another kind Kitfox 

owner. The next year I priced everybody and Avemco was much cheaper 

so I switched. Then the following year Avemco dropped my premiums 

about 15%. Note that I have liability only.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Insurance

Pat, yes, no passengers...or dual instruction...during phase 1.  You don't want to ever try that.  Some people will tell you it's okay but believe me if there is a problem the FAA will make your life hell.



The only option for a new tail wheel pilot with a plane in phase one to get training is find another Kitfox to get the training in.  I traveled 800 miles and spent a week to do it.



I see there will be a Kitfox SLSA available for training in Boise soon.  As a new tail wheel pilot, 10 hrs dual will be well worth the cost if you plan to do the phase one testing.

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Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: Insurance

I needed insurance to be able to fly in the Homebuilders' Review (the  

next morning) at Oshkosh in 2007, so I went to the EAA Insurance  

booth. After all the negotiations, they told me that I couldn't have  

it by the next day because they "weren't hooked up to a computer,  

here at the show", so I visited Avemco, and they signed me up right  

then and there, and the liability-only insurance went into effect at  

midnight that night......sold.....been with 'em ever since. At that  

point in time, I had about 290 hours solo, all in my taildragger Kitfox.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 891.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~109 to go(117 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

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On Mar 29, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:



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 At 06:36 PM 3/28/2010, you wrote:

> Avemco cost a little more which I am willing to pay for the level  

> of service I got via phone. But their deductible is $1000 and  

> Falcon's appears to be $100. I have less than 200 hrs total and  

> less than 20 hrs taildragger  logged so I don't qualify for an EAA  

> discount from Falcon. Anybody have suggestions?



 Pat,

         Interesting. My experience when I started was that I  

 couldn't get Avemco because they required something like 25 hours  

 time-in-type. I bought AIG through AOPA because they only required  

 1 hour time-in-type which I was able to beg from another kind  

 Kitfox owner. The next year I priced everybody and Avemco was much  

 cheaper so I switched. Then the following year Avemco dropped my  

 premiums about 15%. Note that I have liability only.

 Guy Buchanan

 San Diego, CA

 K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Insurance

Tom, I have only 17 hours tailwheel experience in an Aeronica Champ about 3 years ago. I don't know where I could get 10 hours dual in a KF other than my own. I am sure most KF owner's policy would not include instruction coverage for other pilots. Techniquicaly I am qualified to fly off the 40 hours as I am licensed. Would the FAA be happier if I just jumped in and started flying?  I'm crazy, not stupid. I taught myself to fly a tailwheel ultralight 25 years ago, but everything happened alot slower with a stall speed of 19 mph and top speed on 39 mph. I have to talk to my test pilot. 

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Pat, yes, no passengers...or dual instruction...during phase 1.  You don't want to ever try that.  Some people will tell you it's okay but believe me if there is a problem the FAA will make your life hell.

 

The only option for a new tail wheel pilot with a plane in phase one to get training is find another Kitfox to get the training in.  I traveled 800 miles and spent a week to do it.



I see there will be a Kitfox SLSA available for training in Boise soon.  As a new tail wheel pilot, 10 hrs dual will be well worth the cost if you plan to do the phase one testing.

 

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Ellensburg, WA





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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: Insurance

When I first got N205AK flying I had to have someone else fly off the first 40 hours as I had only 5 hours of tail wheel in a Cessna 140.  Insurance was just not avail.  After that falcon just required 5 hours dual and 5 solo but covered the plane for both.  

         

  

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Tom, I have only 17 hours tailwheel experience in an Aeronica Champ about 3 years ago. I don't know where I could get 10 hours dual in a KF other than my own. I am sure most KF owner's policy would not include instruction coverage for other pilots. Techniquicaly I am qualified to fly off the 40 hours as I am licensed. Would the FAA be happier if I just jumped in and started flying?  I'm crazy, not stupid. I taught myself to fly a tailwheel ultralight 25 years ago, but everything happened alot slower with a stall speed of 19 mph and top speed on 39 mph. I have to talk to my test pilot.   

    

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 Pat, yes, no passengers...or dual instruction...during phase 1.  You don't want to ever try that.  Some people will tell you it's okay but believe me if there is a problem the FAA will make your life hell.

 

 The only option for a new tail wheel pilot with a plane in phase one to get training is find another Kitfox to get the training in.  I traveled 800 miles and spent a week to do it.

 

 I see there will be a Kitfox SLSA available for training in Boise soon.  As a new tail wheel pilot, 10 hrs dual will be well worth the cost if you plan to do the phase one testing.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:52 am Post subject: Insurance

Pat,

  You will need a tailwheel endorsement from a CFI in your log book to be legal to fly your aircraft as PIC.(if you don't already have it) I am assuming your airplane is an experimental amateur built or ELSA.

  I have over 15000 hours flying time and at least 2000 taildragger and still the first few hours I am on my own until I have time in that exact type aircraft.(at least that is what many insurance companies have told me in the past) You can't win.

  As I recall,AVEMCO was the most helpful. I took their insurance until I had about 5 hours in the aircraft and then dropped them and went to a much cheaper policy from an outfit in Washington State (they also use AGI) Don't know whether it was the right thing to do until I, and I hope not, have to collect. I had AVEMCO for my Piper Pacer (death ship.. right Leonard ?) which was destroyed by hurricane Ivan. They paid off right away so I was very satisfied with them!

  At least you have that fine "bush gear" which will make ground handling a much easier task.

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                                   Fox 4

                                   Milton,Fl

larry huntley

Joined: 19 Jul 2008
Posts: 149

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: Insurance

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Kitfox 4-1200 N234EE
EA81,AMAX Redrive Warp 3 blade

akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Insurance

 	  Dick Maddux wrote: 	
		  Pat,

 not, have to collect. I had AVEMCO for my Piper Pacer (death ship.. right Leonard ?) which was destroyed by hurricane Ivan. They paid off right away so I was very satisfied with them!

  At least you have that fine "bush gear" which will make ground handling a much easier task.

            ï¿½           ï¿½          Dick Maddux

            ï¿½           ï¿½          Fox 4

            ï¿½           ï¿½          Milton,Fl 	




Ahhh I do believe that would correctly be identified as a short wing piper death trap!  I do miss mine alot, and am thinking about rebuilding her or getting another one.. I defied death in it one time, who says I cant do it again!



And to keep it relevant, I found both avemco and falcon helpful to deal with when I was shopping around for insurance.  All I could get up here was liability, and the quote was a bit steeper than I wanted to pay, but that was when I I only had 10 hrs in type on the Avid (the 300 KF hours did not count) and 1500 T.W. hrs.  I should start getting quotes again now that I have 150 in type on the Avid and see how bad they want to gouge me.  If I remember correctly, it was 1900 for liability on wheels and 4500 for the 4 months of float season.

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Soldotna AK
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582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
IVO IFA
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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: Insurance

Len, I thought $1400 for full coverage was high. You Alaskans pay thru the nose!

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 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:11 PM, akflyer <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com (akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

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Dick Maddux wrote:

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		   Pat,

 Â not, have to collect. I had AVEMCO for my Piper Pacer (death ship.. right Leonard ?) which was destroyed by hurricane Ivan. They paid off right away so I was very satisfied with them!

 > Â  At least you have that fine "bush gear" which will make ground handling a much easier task.
	


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 Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  ï¿½ Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  ï¿½ Â  Â  Â  Â  Â Milton,Fl

 
	




Ahhh I do believe that would correctly be identified as a short wing piper death trap! Â I do miss mine alot, and am thinking about rebuilding her or getting another one.. I defied death in it one time, who says I cant do it again!

 

And to keep it relevant, I found both avemco and falcon helpful to deal with when I was shopping around for insurance. Â All I could get up here was liability, and the quote was a bit steeper than I wanted to pay, but that was when I I only had 10 hrs in type on the Avid (the 300 KF hours did not count) and 1500 T.W. hrs. Â I should start getting quotes again now that I have 150 in type on the Avid and see how bad they want to gouge me. Â If I remember correctly, it was 1900 for liability on wheels and 4500 for the 4 months of float season.

 

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akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Insurance

with as many planes as we have up here (per capita), the weather and just the type of flying done, we tend to bend more planes than most areas... hence high insurance rates!

Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: Insurance

Len, Don't forget Bears. We haven't had a plane damaged by a bear in Illinois in awhile.

  

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with as many planes as we have up here (per capita), the weather and just the type of flying done, we tend to bend more planes than most areas... hence high insurance rates!



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IVO IFA

Full Lotus 1450

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Pat Reilly

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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: Insurance

Lynn, You flew without insurance until then?

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 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)> wrote:

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I needed insurance to be able to fly in the Homebuilders' Review (the next morning) at Oshkosh in 2007, so I went to the EAA Insurance booth. After all the negotiations, they told me that I couldn't have it by the next day because they "weren't hooked up to a computer, here at the show", so I visited Avemco, and they signed me up right then and there, and the liability-only insurance went into effect at midnight that night......sold.....been with 'em ever since. At that point in time, I had about 290 hours solo, all in my taildragger Kitfox.

 

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 891.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~109 to go(117 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

 Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

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At 06:36 PM 3/28/2010, you wrote:

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		  Avemco cost a little more which I am willing to pay for the level of service I got via phone. But their deductible is $1000 and Falcon's appears to be $100. I have less than 200 hrs total and less than 20 hrs taildragger  logged so I don't qualify for an EAA discount from Falcon. Anybody have suggestions?

 	


Pat,

       Interesting. My experience when I started was that I couldn't get Avemco because they required something like 25 hours time-in-type. I bought AIG through AOPA because they only required 1 hour time-in-type which I was able to beg from another kind Kitfox owner. The next year I priced everybody and Avemco was much cheaper so I switched. Then the following year Avemco dropped my premiums about 15%. Note that I have liability only.

 



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: Insurance

Yup....all the way to California, too....and my test pilot, and 40- 

hour-fly-off guys didn't even question whether I had any or not.  

Might not have been the smartest thing I've ever done, but.....



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 897.7 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~107 to go(113 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

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On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Lynn, You flew without insurance until then?

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 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>  

 wrote:

 



 I needed insurance to be able to fly in the Homebuilders' Review  

 (the next morning) at Oshkosh in 2007, so I went to the EAA  

 Insurance booth. After all the negotiations, they told me that I  

 couldn't have it by the next day because they "weren't hooked up to  

 a computer, here at the show", so I visited Avemco, and they signed  

 me up right then and there, and the liability-only insurance went  

 into effect at midnight that night......sold.....been with 'em ever  

 since. At that point in time, I had about 290 hours solo, all in my  

 taildragger Kitfox.



 Lynn Matteson

 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

 Jabiru 2200, #2062, 891.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

 Countdown to 1000 hrs~109 to go(117 days to go)

 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

 Electroair direct-fire ignition system

 Rotec TBI-40 injection

 Status: flying (and learning)

 do not archive

_________________
Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: Insurance

Lynn, Have to call my test pilot tonight. I'm contemplating doing the same.

  

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 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)> wrote:

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		   --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)>

Yup....all the way to California, too....and my test pilot, and 40-hour-fly-off guys didn't even question whether I had any or not. Might not have been the smartest thing I've ever done, but.....  



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger



Jabiru 2200, #2062, 897.7 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~107 to go(113 days to go)  

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive

 On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  Lynn, You flew without insurance until then?

do not archive

Pat Reilly



On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)> wrote:

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)>



I needed insurance to be able to fly in the Homebuilders' Review (the next morning) at Oshkosh in 2007, so I went to the EAA Insurance booth. After all the negotiations, they told me that I couldn't have it by the next day because they "weren't hooked up to a computer, here at the show", so I visited Avemco, and they signed me up right then and there, and the liability-only insurance went into effect at midnight that night......sold....been with 'em ever since. At that point in time, I had about 290 hours solo, all in my taildragger Kitfox.

 

Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 891.5 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

Countdown to 1000 hrs~109 to go(117 days to go)

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

 Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying (and learning)

do not archive

	




  

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