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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: BRS VLS Reply with quote

Fellow Kolbers,

Since I'm selling my Mark III to David Key and he does not want the BRS, I have a brand new re-packed and checked by BRS (January 06) VLS 1050 never mounted for sale for $1,200. I paid $3,400 for it (2001) and another $800 in January to have updated and repacked in the aerodynamic VLS cannister. If anyone wants it let me know otherwise I'll put it on eBay and see what happens! David is going to finish this project up and I bought a Rotorway Helicopter Kit (just a Kolb with much smaller wings . . . Smile ). Now if I could figure out how to mount a BRS to the helicopter rotor . . . . . . hope you guys don't mind if I still lurk on your excellent interchanges from time to time. David is a great Kolb driver and will be a good addition to the family. After the helicopter there may be another Kolb for me . . . probably a single seater. I'll rely on your advice! Take care. Lese

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1. 01:26 AM - Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ??? (planecrazzzy)
2. 01:53 AM - Re: test&update (planecrazzzy)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: R Wing needed for Firestar (John Jung)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (pat ladd)
6. 11:35 AM - Re: New video from Montreal (Noel)
7. 11:43 AM - Shaking strut ... (Noel)
8. 11:50 AM - Test Flying (John Hauck)
9. 11:58 AM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Blumax008(at)aol.com)
10. 12:21 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (Blumax008(at)aol.com)
11. 12:31 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (N111KX (Kip))
12. 12:49 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
13. 01:03 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (John Hauck)
14. 01:37 PM - Re: Shaking strut ... (Bob Dalton)
15. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine (russ kinne)
16. 02:13 PM - Re: BRS Deployment... (russ kinne)
17. 02:54 PM - Streamline Lift Struts / Homemade (planecrazzzy)
18. 03:27 PM - HKS (Jerry Deckard)
19. 04:20 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
20. 04:20 PM - Re: HKS (John Hauck)
21. 04:25 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (planecrazzzy)
22. 04:35 PM - Re: HKS (Jerry Deckard)
23. 04:47 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (John Hauck)
24. 05:21 PM - FireStar II sunset flight (WillUribe(at)aol.com)
25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (ElleryWeld(at)aol.com)
26. 05:53 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (John Hauck)
27. 06:09 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (planecrazzzy)
28. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun 'N Fun (cspoke)
29. 06:24 PM - Re: FireStar II sunset flight (Richard Pike)
30. 07:34 PM - Re: Streamline Lift Struts / (sleeves)Homemade (Possum)
31. 08:02 PM - Alternitive Engines For Firestar (Richard & Martha Neilsen)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 01:26:51 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Hey Big Lar...Vamoose update ???
From: "planecrazzzy"

Hey big Lar,
If you cooperate....I can try.

First, we'll start with 12V DC , if that doesn't get ya goin....

We'll go staight to AC ....say 120 ....240....480....

You know, you did all that work for years...now your SO CLOSE

That in itself should be really good motivation...just one small(er) oil leak

keeping you from flying.....Well, that and a mountain of paperchasing...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN

biglar wrote:
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Kin ya do anything 'bout laziness ?? Do not Archive.

Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
N78LB Vamoose
www.gogittum.com

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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 01:53:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: test&update
From: "planecrazzzy"

Hi Paul,
Got all the hinges marked and the cables tagged?......I guess you'll
have to strip your cage down too....
I remember when "I" was at that stage....it was looking like an airplane
and then I had to tear it all down, back to a bunch of parts...

Oh, the " where am I in building"....We already have one...

It's called the "Kolb List".....He he he
Good luck with your fabric and painting.......

Pictures,pictures pictures......That's what we want to see......

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Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN / N381PM


Paul P wrote:
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Hi Kolbers,
I have a new computer and lost the info on the BBS. Starting over here.....As
for Ms Dixie she comes apart this weekend for covering! What are other builders

up to? Maybe we need a thread on "Where I am in my building" and what I am
building perhaps.
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Greetings from Harris Hollow

Regards,
Paul Petty
Kolbra 012
912UL

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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: R Wing needed for Firestar
From: "John Jung"


Livair wrote:
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Are there other models that have the same wing? Is the Twinstar or Ultrastar
wing by any chance the same?

I believe that the Mark II has the same wing as the Firestar II. But unless you
find one close to you, the transportation costs could be more than rebuilding
or building new. Doesn't hurt to search, though.
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Surprise, AZ


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________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 08:24:58 AM PST US
From: ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Kolb factory participation vs "barnyard engineering&quo



Todd you have taken the words out of my mouth there shouldnt even be a
question of what is a better plane just take a look at the design & Construction
of
each of them and this should answer your question

Ellery in Firestar

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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US
From: "pat ladd"

Subject: Re: Oxygen Sensor on a Two Stroke Engine


I go on O2 at 1000'! -- how could I manage that in a Kolb ? Maybe I'd
never fly that high anyway -->>

Hi Russ,

I assume you meant 10,000 ft..
Mick Moulai tells me today that he had my Xtra up to 10500ft and still
climbing yesterday as part of the test programme on my machine.

The programme is almost finished and I may actually get my hands on the
plane myself in the next couple of weeks.

Cheers

Pat

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Time: 11:35:29 AM PST US
Subject: Re: New video from Montreal
From: "Noel"



Hello Bill !

Thanks for your comments !
This was at 2500 feet ... the higest altitude allowed in that area (without contacting
the Mirabel airport tower).

Nol


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________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 11:43:43 AM PST US
Subject: Shaking strut ...
From: "Noel"



Hello all !

I have often noticed some vibration of the wing struts of my Twinstar MK II .
This happens at a given RPM when the strut seems to hit a "resonance" point and
start to vibrate. This never bothered me too much as it seems to only happens
at a RPM of around 4500 .

Now ... i took some picture with my camera phone while flying yesterday
that happens to "catch " these vibrations on the picture.
I have been quite surprised when i saw that picture with the apparently quite large
amplitude of the vibration ! Quite amazing ... but it could also be
an optical "effect" created or amplified by the relatively low shutter speed of
the camera ...

In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio fix
the "problem" .

I have seen some modular plastic fairing that can easily be installed on a Rans
S-12 (i think) ... These are made of 2 plastic parts that "snap" together to
form a "water drop" shaped fairing ...

Any one could submit a source for these ?

Good and safle flying to all ...

Noel Bouchard
Twinstar MK II
350 Hrs


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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 11:50:36 AM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Test Flying



the
| plane myself in the next couple of weeks.
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| Cheers
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| Pat
Patrick:

Here in the States we get to be our own test pilot for our own
aircraft.

Is there a requirement for a designated person to test your homebuilt
aircraft?

john h
mkIII


________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 11:58:32 AM PST US
From: Blumax008(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Shaking strut ...


In a message dated 4/15/2006 2:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
noel(at)teledata.qc.ca writes:

In any case i am now thinking of installing wing strut fairings to try tio
fix the "problem" .

My '04 and 503 powered Firestar II does the same thing depending on how the
503 feels like eating it's oats. I have the strut fairings too...same deal. I

let the sumbitch vibrate. If the strut fails, I got the 'chute.

Wild Bill Catalina



________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 12:21:30 PM PST US
From: Blumax008(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: BRS Deployment...



I figured that would get someone's attention! LOL!

This is just food for thought for all you potential BRS deployers out there.
I use my Firestar II for aerial photography for a major developer here in
north Florida.

I shoot at 12,000 ft. every week. Yes, it'll go that high, just be patient,
breathe good & carry lots of fuel for the long burn. Anyway, I was waaay up
there freezing my butt off, banking hard over, getting scared again & started

thinking....

Me thinking..."You know, with this 40mph north wind blowing & me being over
the coast, if I had an accidental 'chute deployment, I'd be at least 5 miles
out in the Gulp of Mexico before I landed in the water! Also, if I did
actually have to use that sucker & deployed it too soon at too high an
altitude...I'd be at least 5 miles out in the Gulp of Mexico!"

So...my point being, & I don't think this has ever been brought up...be
concious of where you are, how high you are & where the wind may blow you if you

really do need to use a 'chute! I've never heard of it happening before but
an accidental or intentional deployment (at altitude) could put your butt in a

very serious situation. Be prepared to ride it down to a safer altitude
before deployment...if needed...and hope the sumbitch doesn't ever accidentally

deploy due to some brain or equipment malfunction.

I'm even thinking about removing it. This is the first aircraft I've ever
had in 28 years of flying ultralights that had a BRS. Be somethin' if I saved

myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for thought.

Wild Bill Catalina



________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________
Time: 12:31:21 PM PST US
Subject: Re: BRS Deployment...
From: "N111KX (Kip)"



Just ride it down to 700 AGL then pull Big Red:)
Kip

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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX


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________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________
Time: 12:49:05 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: BRS Deployment...



| myself via BRS...only to drown later. Like I said...food for
thought.
|
| Wild Bill Catalina

Heard the very same statement several times from different pilots over
the years, "thinking about removing it."

I can assure you, if you need it and it is laying on the bench in the
hangar, you gonna wish you had it.

Might be a good idea to purchase and wear an inflatable PFD when
flying near and or over water. I bought one a few days prior to
flying to S&F from Acft Spruce. Paid $118.00 for it. Will be worth
every penny if the time should arise when I need it, and I have it
firmly attached to my body.

Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
situation may live little room for decision making at different
altitudes.

Quote:
From personal experience, I did not have a choice either time. It was
imperative to make the decision immediately or die.


Another point to consider is:

If and when the emergency arises, the aircraft may not be in a docile,
stable descent. It very well make be tumbling rapidly, spinning
wildly, with such centrifugal force that one may not be able to raise
a hand to find, grasp, and pull the deployment handle.

If one can afford to install a ballistic recovery system, one should.
One should also not be afraid to use it, should the situation present
itself. It gives you another chance when all other options have
expired.

Take care,

john h
mkIII

________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________
Time: 01:03:04 PM PST US
From: "John Hauck"
Subject: Re: BRS Deployment...



| Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an
emergency
| situation may live little room for decision making at different
| altitudes.
The above should have read:

"Deciding when and where one will deploy their BRS during an emergency
situation my leave little room for decision making at different
altitudes."

Thanks,

john h
mkIII


________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________
Time: 01:37:40 PM PST US
From: "Bob Dalton"
Subject: RE: Shaking strut ...



Noel,

Look's as though the strut is distorted from your lexan being photographed
through, you do have a canopy on right. Look at the landscape you will see
your straight lines are distorted also. Just my guess though.

Bob D.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: BRS VLS Reply with quote

Flew Rotorway's 162F for 6 years before buying my Kolb.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: BRS VLS Reply with quote

OK,
Who was the lucky sap who beat me to Lisa's chute?
I was late in seeing her offer as I'm working 72-80 hr weeks lately. Sad

Denny (crying in my money) Rowe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: BRS VLS Reply with quote

Hey Denny,
I was hoping it was me, I sent her a private email 50 minutes after her
post, but have not heard anything back.
How about it Lisa, who got first dibs.

John Cooley

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: BRS VLS Reply with quote

Lisa, did you ever fly the Mk III? I never read about it anywhere:) I really enjoyed your adventures in the Pulsar and wish you good luck in the Rotorway...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: BRS VLS Reply with quote

Congrats John,
You got a heck of a deal brother, I am consoling myself with the fact that
at least I won't have to add building a new gap seal to my list of things I
have to do before I fly this year. Smile
The list is long enough as it is.

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